@Tfmonkey you were talking about how people who hedge with options aren't making that much money, well at least in paper trading so far, i don't think ive ever lost money on an option/future combo.....as a matter of fact, i believe producers MUST buy the options as insurance in case of an FTD, or not being able to fulfill the obligation.
@Tfmonkey furthermore, every single time Ive shorted a commodity future in backwardation, I "Won" the trade, and "profited" handsomely.
@shortstories @Tfmonkey if you short sell 100 shares of something, and then buy a put option (The right to sell at a certain price by a certain time.) you are pretty safe from losing infinite money, at least until the contract expires.