> Christianity is not inherently patriarchal
That has to be THE dumbest thing you've said so far.
God the Father and His son Christ are the definitive model of rule by the patriarch.
> early feminists made reference to a lot of NT scripture to justify their position.
Early feminists also openly worshipped Satan and rewrote the first few books of the bible.
https://www.amazon.com/Womans-Bible-Classic-Feminist-Perspective/dp/048642491X
@philosophy Forget about it @UncleIroh He has no interest in good faith discussion.
I conceded the good points he made while he ignored and strawmanned mine because he has a clear agenda and made up his mind already.
I know.
Even though you're just a mere bread product of Jewish origin, this was fun.
Nietzsche-loving atheists would do well to read Dostoyevsky as an alternative to the mad German, study some West & East Christian history, take a good look around at the ruins of Western secularist enlightenment and then punch themselves in the dick until they get it.
Or just continue deep-throating Sam Harris and his atheist meditation secularism.
This is you last chance to address my points:
1. Christianity is a patriarchal religion so it couldn't have caused feminism. Feminism = Satanism. NOT Christianity
2. Just because people twist/misinterpret the bible doesn't mean we should scrap it all.
It's funny you prove my point without realizing. Moral relitivsm can't work because people will just make up their own subjective morality to suit their current goals (like women) leading to chaos
> Blue/level 4 Spiral Dynamics thinking
What kind of new-age faggotry is this nonsense?
On second thoughts, don't bother. I can guarantee it lays claim to metaphysics without admitting it.
Appreciate the added clarification. I couldn't recall the precise heresy he was referring to.
@philosophy @UncleIroh @basedbagel what you are referring to is called dispensational premillenialism. It is a surprisingly modern interpretation adopted by American baptists due to the idea being promoted in the Schofield reference bible. >99% of Christians do not, and have never believed in this.
"don't tell me you're not saying there's a "right way," because that's exactly what this quote is saying."
How are you gonna quote me and then straw man me lol?
put the straw man down and address my actual point.
There is a book called the bible that me and a few people happen to live by.
Alot of people find the twist the bible to their own ends, which is WRONG. Get it now?
I'm not lacking in self awareness you're clearly lacking in reading comprehension.
Correct.
Feminism can be summarized as "Daddy is a big meanie-head because he won't let me be a slut and kill my babies"
It really does boil down to that. Secular enlightenment/progressive laws always go in the direction of "I want more unaccountable sex and degeneracy".
Always.
"nor does it mean Christianity didn't give rise to feminism."
This is FALSE.
Christianity is as patriarchal religion which diametrically OPPOSES feminism.
Why do you think feminists always bitch about the patriarchy?
Because Patriarchy implies male hedgemony.
"You're seeing YOUR version of Christianity"
NO I AM NOT.
This is not a videogame or windows.
There are no versions of Christianity.
There is scripture and there are humans who twist words to serve their own ends as they have done from antiquity.
To sit here and pretend otherwise is asinine
My account of Buddhism is accurate, truthful and entirely consistent with their stated consequentialist beliefs.
Whatever gotcha you think you have scored lives in your head.
Show me where the Christianity touched you ..
If you were as rational as you like to believe you are and stopped indulging in hate-boner straw-man arguments, and actually studied this stuff in good faith, even you .. yes even you, could understand.
Jesus patiently awaits.
I'm losing my patience here as I think you're intentionally ignoring my points.
"There's a TON of Christians out there who pick and choose what they want to follow in the Bible"
AGAIN: people don't follow all the rules but you judge Christianity based off it's principles, not the people.
"Adopting Christianity, therefore, doesn't even guarantee we'll get rid of feminism"
There are no guarantees, but its a pretty safe bet
It's abundantly clear that you really don't understand Christianity at all.
Not even a bit.
Christ is the living God and we are His children. We are given life's blessing and commanded to bring forth more life in His name.
Christianity is the MOST life-affirming religion as can be seen by historical birth-rates. The religious give birth to far more children than secularists, who murder and sterlize theirs, as is their Satanic wont.
"This is exactly the argument liberal Christians make:"
That had nothing to do with what I was saying, though.
You're talking to me, so address my points and not normie Christians who have never read the bible.
> LITERALLY an ad hominem.
No, if something being said is true, then it's not technically an ad hominem fallacy, even if it's negative.
In this case, not only are they true, they are centrally relevant to the argument you make.
Descriptively he gets a lot right. Prescriptively he is entirely wrong, as the modern day meaning crisis & suicide rates demonstrate.
Dostoyevksy, on Orthodox Christian, got far more right.
Your lack of historical understanding is clear. Do some reading first.
Buddhism's purpose to "lived life" is work towards enlightenment such that rebirth no longer happens.
Life itself according to them is proof of our defilement by attachment.
The logical conclusion of their worldview is a world where humans no longer physically exist because they have transcended to a unification with an enlightened universal Oneness.
Buddhism is self-negation and nihilism. GTFO with that nonsense.
Tea expert, retired Fire Nation general, former Crown Prince of the Fire Nation, Grand Lotus of the Order of the White Lotus, firebending master, mentor to loveable nephew retard Zuko, Dragon of the West.
Lover of anime tiddies.