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@basedbagel @philosophy

🤣 This is true.

Your alternative penance is to go fuck yourself in your bonus hole until you're sorry.

@UncleIroh @philosophy

"metaphysics isn't real but I believe in the good".

You're spot on but TBH I don't think he even cares one way or the other.

I think he's just as sad lonely atheist who has beef with a couple christians in his life and is taking out on us.

"he couldn't justify replacing it with anything better."

That is my BIGGEST beef with secular people. Disregarding tradition and relegion so quickly with no feasible alternatives.

It's irksome.

@basedbagel @philosophy

He doesn't yet understand that he has no moral justification for TWRA, since it's all just "subjective feels" and "metaphysics isn't real but I believe in the good".

And if TWRA actually happened, he couldn't justify replacing it with anything better. He wouldn't even be able to morally argue against bringing back Aztec child sacrifice as a replacement without getting into waters he claims do not exist.

@basedbagel @philosophy

> debating with an alt-right domestic terrorist nazi.

Fuck off with that please. Now you're just fed-posting.

I wouldn't say he was an alt-right domestic terrorist nazi at all.

Also, I get on with racists of all colors. Except Zionist Jews. They can die in a ditch.

@philosophy @basedbagel

> Christianity is not inherently patriarchal

That has to be THE dumbest thing you've said so far.

God the Father and His son Christ are the definitive model of rule by the patriarch.

> early feminists made reference to a lot of NT scripture to justify their position.

Early feminists also openly worshipped Satan and rewrote the first few books of the bible.

amazon.com/Womans-Bible-Classi

@philosophy Forget about it @UncleIroh He has no interest in good faith discussion.

I conceded the good points he made while he ignored and strawmanned mine because he has a clear agenda and made up his mind already.

@basedbagel @philosophy

I know.

Even though you're just a mere bread product of Jewish origin, this was fun.

Nietzsche-loving atheists would do well to read Dostoyevsky as an alternative to the mad German, study some West & East Christian history, take a good look around at the ruins of Western secularist enlightenment and then punch themselves in the dick until they get it.

Or just continue deep-throating Sam Harris and his atheist meditation secularism.

@philosophy @UncleIroh

This is you last chance to address my points:

1. Christianity is a patriarchal religion so it couldn't have caused feminism. Feminism = Satanism. NOT Christianity

2. Just because people twist/misinterpret the bible doesn't mean we should scrap it all.

It's funny you prove my point without realizing. Moral relitivsm can't work because people will just make up their own subjective morality to suit their current goals (like women) leading to chaos

@philosophy @UncleIroh @basedbagel >and its logical conclusion is that after the rapture, humans will no longer physically exist on Earth.
Rapture theology/premillennialism is not the defacto view of Christianity and is rather recent and mostly American. It isn't a cycle though where souls escape via one-way valve or are otherwise trapped in reincarnation.

@philosophy @basedbagel

> Blue/level 4 Spiral Dynamics thinking

What kind of new-age faggotry is this nonsense?

On second thoughts, don't bother. I can guarantee it lays claim to metaphysics without admitting it.

@ned @philosophy @basedbagel

Appreciate the added clarification. I couldn't recall the precise heresy he was referring to.

@philosophy @UncleIroh @basedbagel what you are referring to is called dispensational premillenialism. It is a surprisingly modern interpretation adopted by American baptists due to the idea being promoted in the Schofield reference bible. >99% of Christians do not, and have never believed in this.

@philosophy @UncleIroh

"don't tell me you're not saying there's a "right way," because that's exactly what this quote is saying."

How are you gonna quote me and then straw man me lol?

put the straw man down and address my actual point.

There is a book called the bible that me and a few people happen to live by.

Alot of people find the twist the bible to their own ends, which is WRONG. Get it now?

I'm not lacking in self awareness you're clearly lacking in reading comprehension.

@basedbagel @philosophy

Correct.

Feminism can be summarized as "Daddy is a big meanie-head because he won't let me be a slut and kill my babies"

It really does boil down to that. Secular enlightenment/progressive laws always go in the direction of "I want more unaccountable sex and degeneracy".

Always.

@philosophy @UncleIroh

"nor does it mean Christianity didn't give rise to feminism."

This is FALSE.

Christianity is as patriarchal religion which diametrically OPPOSES feminism.

Why do you think feminists always bitch about the patriarchy?

Because Patriarchy implies male hedgemony.

@philosophy @UncleIroh

"You're seeing YOUR version of Christianity"

NO I AM NOT.

This is not a videogame or windows.

There are no versions of Christianity.

There is scripture and there are humans who twist words to serve their own ends as they have done from antiquity.

To sit here and pretend otherwise is asinine

@philosophy @basedbagel

My account of Buddhism is accurate, truthful and entirely consistent with their stated consequentialist beliefs.

Whatever gotcha you think you have scored lives in your head.

Show me where the Christianity touched you ..

If you were as rational as you like to believe you are and stopped indulging in hate-boner straw-man arguments, and actually studied this stuff in good faith, even you .. yes even you, could understand.

Jesus patiently awaits.

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