@Tfmonkey I am sorry TFM. I will be a good little boy... If it is just welfare, why do you still have worse crime outcomes amongst blacks then poor whites of Kentucky, Idaho have some of the lowest rates of crime. WV is 28th. So is it IQ? In Scotland they have the Chaves and NEDS but they are not as bad as the blacks. So do whites have a natural floor that crime will not pass to??? https://247wallst.com/state/how-the-violent-crime-rate-in-west-virginia-compares-to-other-states/