As an atheist who grew up watching Dawkins & Hitchens debate the religious, I can relate. As I grew older, I realized the importance of Christianity in providing meaning, & building a community of people more loyal to shared values than just having a group of self-centered mercenaries.
Nowadays, if I knew nothing else about someone, & was asked if I would rather live among atheists (tend to be liberal or leftist), or just christians, I'd choose to live among christians.
@shortstories @amerika @eastreed 1 The scale is way too small. A few men with multiple wives within a society of hundreds of millons that are still monogamous is not the same as a whole society being polygamous, it is like saying that communism totally works just because a father giving stuff for free to his wive and children haven't caused them starve to death
2 If that is true, yeah, that would work, polygyny works if there very few men and lots women
@amerika @eastreed @shortstories Morality is originally principles that keep society alive but are unintuitive.
If men can have multiple wives, you get Africa:
Get multiple wives > not enough women for everyone > nearby men go to war to take your wives > the survivor lives in abject poverty since maintaining society requires larges amounts of work and the survivor is too busy maintaining multiple wives > have kids that will kill each other to repeat the cycle
Denying yourself short term pleasures is not slave morality but self control to keep you from being enslaved by feeling obligated to do things for pleasure
I do not think Stirner denies the existence of God
Reading or listeining to Stirner in the Ego and his own might be more time efficient than Nietzsche
Nobody has convinced me that Nietzsche taught anything worthwhile that Stirner has not taught in less words and more time efficiency
So I never bothered with Nietzsche