Tyranny didn't work out too well for the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Cambodia so why are Americans embracing it?
@freepatriot I don't know what Americans are embracing tyranny or what this post is in reference to. Realistically speaking, too ("tyranny" or otherwise), the USSR was the most prosperous, progressive, and equitable period in Russian/Eastern European history with the highest average standards of living and life expectancy, etc.. Nazi Germany was pretty short-lived. Cambodia was wildly short-lived and insanity.
@icedquinn Neither did any of their Czars. @freepatriot
i dunno much about trotsky but he kind of seems like the guy who had too much heart and got shoved out by the guy who just really liked killing people
@icedquinn Trotsky was a total psycho piece of shit. So glad that guy got ice-picked. Stalin did fucked up stuff, no doubt. But, similar to Mao, Russia wouldn't have become what it became industrial-wise and developmentally had he not. Now, granted, there was a lot he didn't have to do and he could have been a lot less fucked up in order to get Russia there. @genmaicha @freepatriot
@breaker Virgin 4th International cope. @genmaicha @icedquinn @freepatriot
@breaker hur hur ho ho hooookay @genmaicha @icedquinn @freepatriot
@breaker You're right. Lev Bronsteindiamongbergsileversteinmoneygrubber wasn't Jewish. @genmaicha @icedquinn @freepatriot
though stalin hated mao so the rivalry is genuine
@icedquinn Just ignore the Mastodon user, fam. @genmaicha @freepatriot @breaker
@adiz @icedquinn (And my ideology is Jiang Zemin-ism this has widely been established as canon.) @genmaicha @freepatriot @breaker
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the wikipedia page on the five year plans kind of hints at this. top brass thought they could simply dictate western level production and gulag everyone until they got it.
this is impossible, because the west relies on permanent underclasses. their socialist framework could never product iphones in the same way because apple relies on terrible working conditions to make the phones cheap, then turn around and pocket the difference.
i think they could have gotten there but it would have been slower and more like switzerland (everything being blobdamn expensive)
apparently the CIA was extremely concerned about the ramifications of automated planning at scale, but the USSR managed to incompetently dodge it.
Chile got one, Cybersyn, nonfactors a CIA funded union op, and then like two months later Allende is killed in the Pinochet thing and the command center for cybersyn is burned down.
THE RUSSIAN CZARS DID A TON MORE GOOD FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE THAN THE COMMUNISTS, WHICH IS WHY THE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION HAPPENED
YOU DON'T GET TO KEEP POWER IF YOU REWARD COMMON PEOPLE INSTEAD OF YOUR POWER BROKERS AND FUNCTIONARIES
YOUR PALACE GUARD SHOULD ALWAYS GET THE PRIME CUTS
AND IF YOU KEEP THE BOOT ON THE NECK OF YOUR POPULATION, KEEP THEM IN GRINDING POVERTY, FEAR, UNCERTAINTY, FINANCIAL PRECARITY -- THEY'LL NEVER GET THE CHANCE TO MOUNT A REVOLT AT SCALE
WHICH IS HOW THE USSR FAILED TOO
ALL THE NOVEAU RICHE NEWLY MIDDLE CLASS PETIT BOURGEOIS IN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE WERE DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF NINETEENTH CENTURY SHITLIB, CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRATS, HUMAN RIGHTS PEOPLE, ANARCHISTS, SOCIALISTS
ALL THE PRIZED ROOSTER ENGINEER'S KIDS SOVIET MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE WERE PRO-WEST, PRO-DEMOCRACY, PRO-MARKETS LIBS
YOU GIVE YOUR COMMONERS A COZY LIFE -- YOU PRIME THEM TO STAB YOU IN THE BACK AND DESTROY THE COUNTRY
@nugger Okay, thank you, Nugger. Always appreciate these little tidbits and your continued contributions. 💕 @genmaicha @icedquinn @freepatriot
IT'S TRUST FUND KIDS!
ITS THE CHILDREN OF UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS AND CAR DEALERSHIP OWNERS!
BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE IM BEING UNCHARITABLE HERE
CLASS ANALYSIS DROPS OFF LIKE A LEAD BRICK WHEN YOU HAVE A MULTIRACIAL SOCIETY
HELL EVEN MULTICULTURAL
CLASS COOPERATION IS AN UNSTATED AND UNENFORCED UNIVERSAL NATURAL NORM WHEN THERE'S THESE BAD PEOPLE WHO AIN'T US ON THE OUTSIDE
THIS CAN BE CHEATED BY HUSTLERS AND RACE BAITERS,
GOOD GOD, I THINK OF ALL PEOPLE US NAZIS KNOW THAT WELL ENOUGH BY NOW,
BUT IT IS MORE OFTEN A GOOD MEANS OF COOPERATION AND SHARING THE WEALTH
THOSE UPPER-MIDDLE CLASS SHITLIBS ARE BREAKING RANK PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS MANAGED TO INSULATE THEM FROM EVER BEING FORCED TO CONTACT WITH A FERAL NIGGER IN AN UNCONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT
IN A WAY THEY ARE FAR TRUER WHITE SUPREMACISTS THAN WE COULD EVER BE.
WITHIN THE LABYRINTH OF THEIR MIND THEY LIVE IN A 95% WHITE AMERICA WHERE THE WHITES ARE A MAJORITY OF THE EARTH'S POPULATION AND HAVE FULL SCALE DOMINANCE OVER EVERYTHING.
WHITES ARE OLYMPIAN GODS AND THE SHITLIBS THEMSELVES ARE PROMETHEUS.
THIS DELUSION IS VERY EXPENSIVE BUT SOME SLICE OF THEIR TRIBE WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP DELUDING THEMSELVES TO THE END, WHICHEVER END IT WILL BE
@icedquinn
> but the USSR managed to incompetently dodge it.
Common Russian L. Not to sound like an asshole or whatever but...almost everything "negative" ascribed to the USSR could just be ascribed to being Russian or otherwise Eastern European or Slavic. It's like the stereotypical Slavic experience of having vast resources and genius brilliance but also unfixable corruption and commonplace back-stabbing and chronic dysfunction. It's almost like a societal or sociocultural curse to have the means and methods and ability of scooping up fleks of gold from the ground only to watch them trickle through your fingers back down to the Earth, never to be kept. Or like a feast that turns to ash as soon as it enters your mouth. Whatever metaphor or analogy you want. It's kinda sad, really. That's the story of the USSR, but also of just Russia and that whole part of the world, generally. @genmaicha @freepatriot
@icedquinn Therapy and cybernetics books probably have more real-world utility in your life than books about Russia, to be fair. @genmaicha @freepatriot
Stalin was carrying out orders from Rome to get revenge on the Eastern Orthodox Christians for rejecting Papal Supremacy. For the same reason the mustache monster started a war in Germany and Europe to purge protestants who had rejected Papal supremacy.
The wars are always holy wars waged using pretexts and deceptions. Modern historians are morons, overlooking this glaring fact.
@genmaicha Stalin was just neglectful too. 💅
I like that euphemism. I'm gonna' start incorporating that sarcastically into my vocabulary. @icedquinn @freepatriot
@genmaicha Nothing and nobody on the internet ought be taken seriously. I'm just here for a good time. @icedquinn @freepatriot
Because the neighbors painted their house the wrong shade of tan and we just can't be having that!