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Every normie who blames economic conditions for low birth rates or anything related to economics needs to be confronted with questions about which country has the best economic conditions? And then you look up the birth rate. Chances are, the birth rate will be low in spite of the great economic conditions.

Repeat the process if they try to name a different country.

Also, there is never going to be the perfect economic conditions that will raise the birth rate. Because that is not the problem.

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Another thing I will mention is that a "lack of childcare services" are to blame for a low birthrate. Bullshit too. I remember seeing a morning news show discussing the low birth rate in South Korea saying they just need more childcare services (often government provided).

Again, I will ask anyone to give me their best example of a country with these childcare services they want. Most likely, their birth rate is below replacement rate too. So that is not the problem either.

@houseoftolstoy low birthrate does tank gdp though , wat are u trying to say.? ur statement is confusing ELI5

@dander You are talking about an entirely different thing. Yes, the GDP will go down as a result of a lower birth rate.

But I am talking about how a "bad economy" is not the reason for the low birth rate. That is people arriving at the wrong answers, which could be for many reasons.

@houseoftolstoy To have a family I think you need afforable housing unless you are inmigrant from the Middle East/ Africa in Europe they will give that for free

@VeganMGTOW Yes, being able to afford a family and a place to live is important, but I guarantee that is not the source of the problem, but just an excuse. If you really want a family, you can find a way. Maybe you will not have the dream house you want right away, but I guarantee the children will not care. In most cases it is the woman who demands the priciest homes.

As for the free housing for immigrant groups, that is indeed bullshit. It just makes housing more expensive for everyone else.

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