@Tfmonkey "There's nothing in the Bible that condemns incest."

Are you for real? Leviticus 18 goes over this extensively. It does not prohibit sexual relations/marriage between cousins, so that might be a point of contention. But to say there is no condemnation of incest is just wrong.

I will not defend the whole situation with Lot and his daughters. It does not condemn or condone what happened, but rather just says that it happened.

while Tantum is being trite here, I think there is a point to be made. You can't create a society where you go "we'll just treat everyone like me"

You have rules, and then you allow exceptions to the rules - you don't get rid of the rules.

We got where we were because of liberalism basically where they didn't want to explicitly make smoking *illegal* so they just used every other coercive technique they could.

On the even bigger picture, we can't allow suboptimal results because muh equality

The slippery slope "fallacy" has been proven to be an effective tactic to shut down opposition to incremental enactment of unwanted policies and outcomes. In fact, I would argue that those proclaiming this as fallacious thinking are themselves are appealing to fallacious reasoning by simply declaring other outcomes as absurd. It also employs shaming tactics, where you use ridicule to suppress anyone who might see that the end outcomes are not so impossible as was implied by naysayers.

Hell, we still have people doubting whether or not we landed on the Moon. Because that (alleged) feat is indeed something that is no easy task. I myself am apathetically agnostic on whether or not we landed on the Moon. I can accept either outcome as possibly being true. But I understand that limitations are far greater than people think when it comes to other possible journeys.

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Whether or not we get people to land on Mars in the future is something that would be quite the achievement. But we should keep in mind that such an achievement is not likely going to be the stepping stone to leaving our solar system to explore other stars. It is already difficult to even fathom getting people to land on Mars.

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I don't hate Sci-Fi stories for having that magical technology or going beyond what is reasonably possible in other areas of reality and science. But we should treat such media with the same amount of legitimacy as fantasy stories with magical powers. It just is not going to happen.

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Perhaps too many people see technological progress to that point as inevitable when they have not thought things through. It is not a coincidence that every SciFi story has some miracle "technology" that is basically just magic to allow for faster than light travel. Not only that, but it often somehow skirts over relativity, unless the story explicitly uses the difference in passages of time as a major factor in the story.

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I can never have a proper conversation with too many people on the impossibility of space travel outside of our solar system. I will too often hear, "We may be surprised how far technology can go!" when I bring up how not only is faster than light travel highly unfeasible, but even getting somewhere close to it.

And keep in mind that even if we can get some object to travel near light speed, we have to account for human limits when dealing with transporting people.

it's not so much Trump saving the Republican party, it's that the GOP establishment has collapsed into full on leftism because they lost the job of being a serious option

Before I get told that New York City would never need a bailout, it happened in 1975. It can easily happen again.

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I would be tempted to say "Let Mamdani run things as he likes and watch everything fall apart." But that would imply that New York City has a completely closed system that would never get bailed out by the state or federal government. Since it is not, leftists can never truly be allowed to live with the consequences of their retarded choices, so Mamdani running wild would not give us the proper experiment if he were to have his way 100%.

this is how little people give a shit about abortion now, you have old boomers saying "I couldn't have done X without abortions!!" and everyone is like "ok boomer"

And back to "walkable cities," if we get more Iryna Zarutskas being murdered, people are rightly going to avoid public transportation when they know the government is not going to punish these murderers properly.

You need a high trust society to have "walkable cities" be a realistic prospect. And if you don't have high trust, you need severe punishment as a deterrant. Anyone who does not support either of these options is a fool or an enemy.

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The US currently has far too many cases of criminals being let off when they should face severe punishment. And in many cases, more severe than they already get. The death penalty is a strong deterrant, regardless of what the midwits who say "life in prison would be worse than death."

They don't factor in that the murderers tend to not think the same thing, given how they fight to delay the death penalty. Because it turns out a lot of murderers are stupid, and need more fitting punishments.

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Perhaps he is right that the excuses being used are no good for current American city planning, but I have a strong feeling if you were to tell the Bike Faggot the real reason why there is little support in the US for "walkable cities," he would call you racist.

For example, I have seen a number of posts regarding the apparent conflict on the right with Zionists (who somehow claim to be authentic MAGA and accusing others of not) vs non-Zionists such as Tucker Carlson. While this might be something worth keeping yourself aware of, you most likely will not see this topic come up in real life conversations, even among people who are right wing. Because it turns out a lot of what goes on with this sort of thing does not affect most people in any way.

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The thing about the whole "touch grass" comment that is quite funny is that it becomes a game of accusing others of being online too much while claiming you yourself are not on too much.

Regardless of who is truly online too much or not, it is important to be interacting with others in the real world to get a pulse on what people in real life are talking about. Because often times what is happening in online spaces does not reflect much on what is going on with people in real life.

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