Beta males are more important than alpha males (using pua definition).

Beta males are even more important than females.

Without beta males, society would not function and females would die. Their babies would die too.

Beta males are the engine of society.

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@redmaple

My memory of model from dating coach "hot alpha female"

Someone can be
high alpha and high beta at the same time
high alpha and low beta at the same time
low alpha and high beta at the same time
low alpha and low beta at the same time

Women like men who are high alpha and high beta for marriage
Women like men who are high alpha for short term relationships
Women do not like men who are high alpha and low beta for marriage
Women do not like low alpha men for dating nor marriage

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@redmaple

VOX Day has a different model

Alpha
Beta
Gamma
Delta
Sigma
Either Omicron or Omega I do not remember

He says Gamma, and Omicron or Omega are toxic

Alpha, Beta, Delta and Sigma are helpful or neutral to society if I remember correctly

Sigma independent?

Delta right hand men

Beta are supported by the alpha & support the Alpha but not at his level of competance nor leadership

Hierarchy is specific to the activity, organization or setting

I might not remember his model correctly

@redmaple

The way a lot of dating coaches tell people to do certain behavior that they call alpha behavior such as ultra aggressiveness instead of being helpful to people is harmful to society

Women rewarding aggressive males who do not have productive behavior harms society

It is possible to be assertive and show initiative while also being productive but there are some people who are not competant but are very confident and aggressive that tend to get into management positions that are bad

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