@Based_Accelerationist

How would Ben Shapiro feel about people saying Jesus is The God YHWH rather than some trivial thing like Jesus is King? It really seems to me like he is trying to downplay people away from Jesus when the New Testament people called Jesus God

@Based_Accelerationist
So I knew someone who said he a Messianic Jew ( Christian ) and that when he decided to believe in Yeshua ( Jesus ) his relatives became really angry and one of them tried to kill themself

It did not sound to me like his Kike relatives were really encouraging him to say Christ is King

There is a whole book called kidnapped for my faith about how a when someone became a Messianic Jew his family members who were kikes kidnapped him

Unfortunately it has Zionist propaganda

@shortstories As long as you believe Jesus is the same entity as God, it's fine, you're 100% noahide compliant and Ben approves. It's only if you say Jesus and God are two different divine entities that is getting dangerously close to paganism, as far as they're concerned. But do you think this little detail even matters? As a christian, you believe everything they want the goyim to believe.

There's no denying it, it's too obvious, Christianity is 100% kosher. Just don't try converting Jews.

@Based_Accelerationist

"All Jewish denominations agree that the bible teaches it is idolatrous for a Jew to believe that God exists as a trinity and becomes incarnate in bodily form"

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/denouncing-defending-the-targeting-of-jews

Five of the Noahide Commandments....

1. Do Not Worship a False Deity...

2. Do Not Commit Blasphemy...blasphemy thus is prohibited to Gentiles

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/biblical-sources-7-noachide-laws

Roman Catholics
Eastern & Oriental Orthodox
Church of the East
Lutheran

All not Noahides according to Jews for Judaism

@Based_Accelerationist
"Third, Ramban demonstrated how the Christian belief in the Trinity and Yeshu's birth could not be believed by any thinking Jew. The Trinity is outright idol worship, for it is belief in three gods"

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4612923/jewish/The-Disputation-of-Ramban-Nachmanides.htm

known in the Jewish world by the acronym "Rambam"...

"Maimonides," is one of the most important figures in the history of Torah scholarship

https://web.archive.org/web/20090523102507/https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/75991/jewish/Maimonides-His-Life-and-Works.htm

Maimonides, a most important scholar to kikes, taught Christians are idol worshipers

@shortstories Since you brought up Maimonides, let's see what else he said about Christianity and Islam...

He considers them "stepping stones towards true enlightenment" and wrote that "thanks to both these religions the world has become full of the ideas of the Messiah, the ideas of the Torah and the ideas of the commandments, so that these have spread to faraway islands and to many dim hearted nations, and they now discuss these ideas and the commandments of the Torah".

It's that simple.

@shortstories So yes, he considers the trinity to be paganism (worship of more than one god). As I said, Christians who believe God and Jesus are the same entity, aren't blasphemous by Noahide standards.

Jews want all whites to be Christians. Would they prefer if they either ditched Jesus or thought of him as God itself (as opposed to a separate entity)? Sure. But that's a small detail, they'd much rather you believe in Jesus and say "Jesus is King", than to be areligious or a pagan.

@shortstories Now take into consideration that the "Christ is King" movement is allowed, not only to exist, but to be promoted and even organize rallies.
You have all the controlled opposition shilling for Christianity, from Donald Trump to the likes of Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson, Russel Brand, Andrew Tate, etc.
Everyone says we need more Christianity, more Jesus.

Ben Shapiro isn't lying, he's telling you the truth for once, be a Christian, believe in your Jesus, fall for the psyop.

@shortstories I think you're spending too much time listening to Christian talking points. They all want you to believe rabbis hate nothing more than you worshiping Jesus, but if you actually watch what they say, you'd know they like it.

Don't fall for Christian lies, it's like listening to Republicans or Democrats. Watch KnowMoreNews, or search for the clips yourself and you'll see that all these people defending Christianity, even on this platform, are willfully ignorant.

@Based_Accelerationist

"So yes, he considers the trinity to be paganism (worship of more than one god). As I said, Christians who believe God and Jesus are the same entity, aren't blasphemous by Noahide standards"

So at least 59.7% of people who call themselves Christians are blasphemous according to them & do not qualify as Noahides.

Catholics & Orthodox are trinitarian & believe God the Father & Jesus are separate entities

"Catholic (48.6%)"

"Orthodox (11.1%)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members

@shortstories If you speak to Catholics, many will tell you God and Jesus are all part of the same divinity, but in different forms. And if you ask them how many gods there are, they'll tell you that there is only one.
So I wouldn't be so sure about those numbers.

And even at the time, other Jewish scholars disagreed with Maimonides about Catholicism being lite paganism.

From what I've heard Jews nowadays view most Christians as Noahide compliant.

@shortstories So it's not as if Jews dislike Jesus because of the concept of the "trinity". It's primarily for "historical" reasons, as they believe he tried to convert/deceive them and wanted to overthrow Judaism in Israel.

Ask any of them and they'll tell you Jesus was a Jew, it's not as if they have a problem with you worshiping him. Even some of the more extreme rabbis are on video rejoicing about the goyim submitting to Jesus.

@Based_Accelerationist

I am not saying the all variations of the Trinity are self contradictory but the way most people present the Trinity it is self contradictory. They list all the properties of Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit as being the same but then say that they are all different than one another. They can not have all the same properties if they are different.

@Based_Accelerationist

if most of the Christians and Muslims are Noahide compliant and if more than 50% of people are Christian or Muslim then why are Jews a threat to most people?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/374704/share-of-global-population-by-religion/

If everyone is Noahide compliant then Jews do not need a big religious war to slay everyone who is not a Noahide or a Jew

@shortstories That's because being "noahide compliant" isn't the end goal, that's just a stepping stone. It means their enemies were successfully psyoped into trading their cultural/racial unity for a controlled Jewish fairy tale, but you're still their enemy. Being controlled opposition doesn't mean Jews suddenly see you as one of them. Only genetics matter to Jews.

The goal is to kill the excess population and put everyone else into camps. Some noahides will be spared and used as slaves.

@shortstories Yes, the concept of the "trinity" has become pretty muddled. I imagine that when Christianity originated as Catholicism, the big selling point was Jesus himself. So the trinity was clear and more relevant, as the followers were brought in primarily because of the tale of Jesus.

But as we know, Christianity has changed quite a bit and I'm sure the Jews leading the church undermined the role of Jesus and the whole idea of the trinity to the point where now it has become a mess.

@Based_Accelerationist

So the Bible seems to mean God when they mention the Holy Spirit, The Son or the Father but it never mentions the Trinity directly. The original creeds never specified that those were three different things They were first called hypostasis in creeds which was later changed to persona and then person.

Some people in the Church of the East said Jesus human nature is not divine and his divine nature is not human but they are United in a single Sonship

@Based_Accelerationist

The Oriental Orthodox said Jesus was fully human and fully divine as a single entity with no separation disagreeing with some of the people in the Church of the East

The Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox took a third position that I do not understand

The Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox disagree about if the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father only or from both the Father and the Son

@Based_Accelerationist

Basically they voted on the truth which I think is a bad way to determine the truth and when there were large groups that disagreed on the vote they split into separate instituitions.

So I would say the moment they changed it from Persona to Person in the creeds really big contradictions crept in

Now the Bible never says that God is a certain number of personas or hypostasis or persons. The Bible does use the term hypostasis but never says how many hypostasis God is

@Based_Accelerationist

The idea that the Pope was infallible being imposed on people was not official until approximately 1870

There are a lot of different Roman Catholic denominations but the largest one that claims the Pope is infallible and the current Pope is legitimate did not exist until around 1870 even though they call themself the oldest Christian Denomination it can clearly be shown to be a lie if you study the history of these voting councils

Newer than Lutherans who were recent

@shortstories That's pretty interesting, I didn't know that. All I know is the concept has become a mess and as you said, somewhat self contradictory in some instances.

It's a shame we have to waste time decoding all this nonsense because Jews, Christians and Muslims keep their cults relevant to geopolitics, by being giant NPCs. If I had to take a course in theology, I'd rather learn about the beliefs that came from the actual lands of my ancestors and not this Abrahamic Middle Eastern crap.