@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis I know the amateurs have to wear headgear, but whether people do in a gym or not is a different story I imagine. Boxing is a very good skill to have though, if you're good at it. Apparently everyone wants to do mid-life crisis BJJ now, but boxers would beat the bricks off those guys. 😄 Even if not, the moment you have to deal with one other person or any rag-tag little group that has 0 interest in giving you a fair one, BJJ is pretty worthless. Boxing is a different story though.

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I would suggest that wrestling is the best sports martial art for self defense And that it does not give you a concussion

It is important to take people down to the ground and then switch opponents once someone is down if defending against multiple attackers using wrestling

If you hold someone in place other people can just attack you

Basicly you have to push or trip them to get them to the floor then switch opponents for self defense

@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis Wrestling is very important too, I wasn't trying to suggest that Boxing is the BEST per se. That said, you're not disabling multiple attackers that way. Unless they're little kids or something like that. Wrestlers also aren't as good at taking people down on the street as they imagine they would be.. If anything, they might get a concussion that way, or at the very least eat a few knee strikes to the face and that's pretty much it.

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It is a useful self defense skill to try to escape from being held to the ground when soneone attacks you using brazillian jujitsu

It is not a useful self defense skill to hold someone to the ground using brazillian jujitsu

It is illegal in conpetition to escape being held to the ground stand up and walk away

See Jessie Encamp demonstrate this

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Jessie Encamp made a video showing how to defend yourself against Brazillian jujitsu by not being taken down for which he was nearly kicked out of a brazzillian jujitsu contest

@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis You can do the exact same thing to a Wrestler who's fixated on taking you down. If anything, they're easier to stuff.
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There is a difference between stand up & ground fighting jujitsu schools

I believe if you only learn one stand up fighting is better

In stand up you try to get the person to the ground without going to the ground yourself

In ground fighting like brazzilian jujitsu they often try to go down to the ground with their opponent putting them in greater danger against multiole attackers

In wrestling going to the ground means losing making it better

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Both boxing and wrestling would be better for self defense than brazillian jujitsu because of it's fixation with intentionally going to the ground when you do not need to

Wrestlers however would usually be better than boxers at avoiding being put down at the ground by another person

I believe brazzillian jujitsu has some value but not as much value as wrestling, boxing and kickboxing

@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis You're watching YouTube videos depicting individual discipline competition, then comparing and contrasting like it's that old show "Deadliest Warrior."

Now you're trying practice Jewry with your Judo interpretation, "it does have a ground-fighting stage." Wrestling has a ground-fighting stage too. Judo is not majority ground-fighting, and never was. The advantage that Judo has over wrestling is that wrestlers can't do a judo throw, and a judo throw into concrete is a beautiful thing. Also, that bullshit you said about jiu-jitsu in re holding people down applies to wrestling more.
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