@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis I know the amateurs have to wear headgear, but whether people do in a gym or not is a different story I imagine. Boxing is a very good skill to have though, if you're good at it. Apparently everyone wants to do mid-life crisis BJJ now, but boxers would beat the bricks off those guys. 😄 Even if not, the moment you have to deal with one other person or any rag-tag little group that has 0 interest in giving you a fair one, BJJ is pretty worthless. Boxing is a different story though.

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I would suggest that wrestling is the best sports martial art for self defense And that it does not give you a concussion

It is important to take people down to the ground and then switch opponents once someone is down if defending against multiple attackers using wrestling

If you hold someone in place other people can just attack you

Basicly you have to push or trip them to get them to the floor then switch opponents for self defense

@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis Wrestling is very important too, I wasn't trying to suggest that Boxing is the BEST per se. That said, you're not disabling multiple attackers that way. Unless they're little kids or something like that. Wrestlers also aren't as good at taking people down on the street as they imagine they would be.. If anything, they might get a concussion that way, or at the very least eat a few knee strikes to the face and that's pretty much it.

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It is a useful self defense skill to try to escape from being held to the ground when soneone attacks you using brazillian jujitsu

It is not a useful self defense skill to hold someone to the ground using brazillian jujitsu

It is illegal in conpetition to escape being held to the ground stand up and walk away

See Jessie Encamp demonstrate this

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Jessie Encamp made a video showing how to defend yourself against Brazillian jujitsu by not being taken down for which he was nearly kicked out of a brazzillian jujitsu contest

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If you take point sparring you can practice kick boxing like skills with reduced risk of injury

Taekwondo and Karate also have one step sparring drills without as great a risk of concussion

The problem is they will waste class time teaching Kata which are not as much a time effective way to learn self defense as one step sparring drills

They may also waste time making you memorize combinations of punches and kicks in a specific order

@shortstories @Jens_Rasmussen @Hyperhidrosis I don't acknowledge Karate and Taekwondo as martial arts relevant to fighting. They're essentially not. There's a reason why in the early 90's there was a Tiger Schulmann's Karate on every corner in America and now they don't exist. In fact, they haven't existed as the McDojo for a very long time.

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I think if Karate and Taekwondo only taught one thing the one step sparring drills they would be a good way to learn self defense without as much risk of injury as kickboxing

Kickboxing would still be better for self defense but that would come at an increased risk of injury

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Judo does have a ground fighting stage from books on judo I read but treats it differently than brazzilian jujitsu

Judo also changes rules frequently

The benefit of wrestling over judo is the techniques work on people without a judo uniform to grab hold of

The benefit of the uniform is protection from skin disease

Also you would learn how to defend against someone grabbing your winter coat which you would not learn in wrestling uniforms

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