@Tfmonkey
I'm surprised. This is not only true, but you're also right that it's a truth where love is the best response.
There are practical implications. The US Army refuse to enlist anyone with an IQ of under 84, correlated to the ASVAB test. That's 10-16% of the population who are too retarded to be of any practical use to an army because they just don't have the capacity to learn and retain anything useful.
What do you do with 33-53 million retards in a highly cognitive society?
@PalePimp @Tfmonkey
True, but here's the extreme other end of that trade: Japan.
Arguably the highest IQ nation on the planet and they're dying out. On their current trajectory who knows how long they'll last?
Example. Inherited wealth in most societies usually gets passed onto children in their 30-50's, giving an economic boost. In Japan where they are also long lived, you now have parents passing inheritance onto their retired children aged 65-75. That's a dying population.
@PalePimp @UncleIroh Yes and No. When things like the Plague or massive wars plunge the population down, it's not the end of the world as long as it's balanced. As long as everyone is shrinking together it's fine.
However, when there isn't balance. When group A shrinks while group B doesn't, and group C grows, then group A is fucked and will likely be conquered by group C.
Empowering women is the kiss of death to a society, but continue to make it about race and jews. It won't matter soon.
@Tfmonkey @PalePimp
To add, PalePimp's model of growing & shrinking without consequence can only happen in a closed economy.
We don't live in that world, nor does Japan. We live in an open economy world and depopulation invites aggression as well as other consequences.
Importing 3rd worlders into Japan would fuck it up forever & no-one wants that for Japan.
I want Jap men to tell their cute bitches to stop working, have Jap kids & carry on being Japs.
Jews? You might be right there.
@UncleIroh @purvispisgah @PalePimp I'm not saying DON'T impale the Progressive Jews. I just think the problem isn't LIMITED to jews, and we should impale the Progressives of all races and religions.
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah I've addressed this but the reason jews did what they did was because they were a permanent minority in other people's countries since the days of Roman Emperor Hadrian. You didn't see any 'non Progressive Jews" until after the creation of Israel because Jews then didn't have to live as minorities anymore.
Values come from self interest and are rational and predictable.
It's not a race thing. Rome fell to degeneracy and corruption despite no jews anymore
@UncleIroh @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah It's almost like there are jews who are more committed to communism/progressivism than their race/religion or something huh?
You now have Jews who are nationalistic and have abandoned their inherent Leftism because they are no longer minorities because of Israel, but not all because most jews continue to live in western countries where they are still minorities.
You can confirm how values change based on circumstances by young voters voting for Leftism.
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah Progressivism doesn't preclude being a capitalism. Both parties are Progressive, and support multiculturalism and Feminism.
There are also non-jews among the upper echelons of power, so it's clearly not just ethnic nepotism, but of course the ruling class DOES engage in nepotism . . . they always have and always will.
If you Thanos-snapped all the jews away, degeneracy and corruption would still exist. It's not a race thing, which is my entire point.
@Tfmonkey @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah
OK, so the argument has now shifted. Now it's because all the good nationalistic Jews live in Israel and all the bad commie Jews don't live in Israel and are therefore minorities who feel threatened?
That's not a reach, that's Apologetics. Given their reputation for being decentralized, by your argument Jews outside Israel can never stop being bad commie Jews.
It's a straw man nobody created. Jews are Progressives and NeoCons. With dual citizenship.
@UncleIroh @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah I'm not using the terms good or bad because they don't apply. Values are not moral. If you're a minority, it's rational to support Leftism and think tribalistically. It's a survival response to those in an inferior position.
I'm just pointing out that these values are based on circumstances and perceived self interest, not genetics or religion.
If everyone was the same race and religion, there would still be winners and losers, and thus Left VS. Right.
@Tfmonkey @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah
>the ruling class DOES engage in nepotism . . . they always have and always will.
Of course, but the chief difference is that it's in THEIR country. Their people, traditions, language, culture, customs.
The correct analogy would be if the echelons of the ruling WASP elite were to settle in Israel and seek to insinuate themselves into Israel's power structures and undermine it from within.
And yet it only ever happens one way. For hundreds of years.
@UncleIroh @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah Yes, but using accusations of antisemitism to deflect criticism is just one form of cutlural marxism. They do the same thing with blacks, gays, women, and the environment.
Cultural Marxism was created by jewish communists too (the Frankfurt School) so I'm not dismissing Jews' involvement.
However, if you look at the Fabians and the Social Gospel Movement, which are also part of the problem, they were NOT started by Jews.
It's not a race thing.
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah no, organized crime is certainly not an Italian thing. Fashion and music can be cultural but that proves nothing. I'm talking about values and systems of power, not what type of carb you eat, or what type of music you listen to.
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah Mafia comes from an Italian word meaning "family", so if this was your attempt at a "gotcha" you're a dumbass.
Your larger point was that behavior is racial and not simply a rational response to circumstances, hence why you think "mafia' is Italian despite organized crime being a global phenomenon that is clearly not Italian.
But yes, the word "mafia" is based on the Italian language, which is Italian. Good job. So?
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah A wandering samurai and the American cowboy are very different personifications of the same trope despite vast differences in culture, language, fashion, location, and technology.
The point you're trying to make is dumb and doesn't even advance your original argument. Of course cultures affect expressions. The Amish wouldn't be the Amish if they were Irish instead of German, but so? It's not the nuances of language and fashion that we're talking about.
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah your mafia example actually proves MY point, not yours, but you're clearly not seeing it, so let me spell it out for you.
The Italian mafia is a manifestation of a phenomenon called "organized crime" which exists basically everywhere. There is nothing intrinsically "Italian" about crime.
Likewise, the phenomenon of Marxism has manifestations which are Jewish, but would and does exist throughout the world, much like "organized crime".
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah go look up the Fabian Society. I'm done talking to you until you do.
@Nou @UncleIroh @PalePimp @purvispisgah To prove your point that "the problem causing structure of today are intrinsically jewish" you simply have to prove that the Fabian Society and the Social Gospel Movement were Jewish.
Hint: They weren't. You're wrong. I'm right. Have fun.
@Tfmonkey @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah
>Cultural Marxism
Marxism is Jewish, not just it's originator but as the embodied animus of long held Jewish resentment towards everyone else. It defines them.
>Fabians and the Social Gospel Movement
Neither did these societies fall out of nowhere, or progress without influence. Since discovering arbitrage, Jews had made a deeper study of that principle than anyone else. They are masters at creating the conditions for & exploiting political arbitrage.
@UncleIroh @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah Communism comes from the desire of losers to change the rules of society. It comes from weakness, not Jews. Jews (being a historical minority) took to ideologies like Communism for obvious reasons, but they would exist without Jews too because they're a product of human nature, not one particular race.
Again, I point to Rome, which purged their Jews under Hadrian, and still suffered degeneracy, corruption, and collapse.
Clearly, it's not all just Jews.
@Tfmonkey @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah
>Communism comes from the desire of losers to change the rules of society.
If that were the only source for their behavior down the centuries then we could all go home early and pat ourselves on the back.
The obvious modern day solution to your argument would be to expel the Jews from every country and repatriate them back to Israel where they will no longer have ANY need to feel marginalized.
Job done?
@Tfmonkey @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah
Jews don't conceive of themselves as just a "race". Their inner identity is ruled by the belief that they are the people whom God chose, the only people to have struck a contract with God.
They are not a religion, since atheist Jews still identify as Jewish. They are not a race, as Jews can be Semitic, Caucasian or African.
They are Schrodingers Victim, powerful AND a victim until something happens. Then they are whichever benefits them the most.
@Tfmonkey @UncleIroh @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah Sabataen-Frankish movement changed the Jewish goal post to redemption thru sin,and by infiltration of other religions and governments control could be established,even Rabbis who disagree gain from this ever changing sect of Judaism
@Tfmonkey @Nou @PalePimp @purvispisgah
Israel has been a State for more than 3 generations now. Your argument lost all legitimacy after Israel won the Arab-Israeli war in the 1960's, and definitely after they acquired nuclear weapons.
And yet, Jews still seek and gain wealth, power and influence in all countries, playing and funding both sides in order to sow division and advance their own interests.
The evidence is overwhelming. No more excuses.