@Tfmonkey with regards to the jews and your perfect utopia constitution it will not be enough to bar them from holding office you have to also bar them from working in the news, social media, schools, education, law enforcement, justice system, banking, finance, medicine, if you fail to do this then the jews will inevitably subvert your new system. You must not allow them to form their own communities within your country or practice any form of kabbalah religious study or practices.

@37712 @Tfmonkey If you're looking to stop subversion of your culture, you're asking for perfect stability in your culture because any change is by definition subversion. You have to draw the line somewhere, but where do your great, great, great grandchildren draw it? Even if you are a hardliner against X group, they might not be. I also don't think TFM was suggesting that his system is a utopia; rather, it's effective to reducing corruption.

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@37712 @DoubleD I have a simple compromise. If you want to form your own little community/micro nation, you can . . . but you don't get to vote or hold any government positions outside of local offices within your community.

Basically, like what we do with the Indian reservations or the Amish, neither of which assimilate, but it doesn't matter because they do their thing over there and nobody cares.

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@Tfmonkey @DoubleD this is a bad idea, we need to be more like Singapore in this regard bc this will inevitably subvert the country and bring in communism

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You obviously have never lived next to either of those. Both Amish and Indian Reservations cause trouble in any community nearby. If you want verification beyond my dumbass on the internet, check out property values and property insurance rates near those enclaves.
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@BiggusDiccus @37712 @Tfmonkey The biggest problem I see with how the US has handled these groups is not that they have let them exist. It's that the US has given them preferential treatment, which is not enforcing laws as they are written; it is unjust.

You can't compare insurance rates between communities near the reservations or near the Amish. They are not comparable on actuarial grounds. People forming communities is not a bad thing. That's call civilization--just not your civilization.

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If they aren't comparible on actuarial grounds then how are there actuary tables for them? I'm not saying they're inner city Chicago, I'm saying there's enough of a crime uptick that they spend money and effort to determine how it influences the surrounding communities.
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@BiggusDiccus @37712 @Tfmonkey You can compare apples to oranges based on price, but that doesn't change the reasons behind why their prices are different. For reservations, the uptick in crime is obvious: welfare. I'd be curious what you know about Amish areas that is so objectionable.

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