Just in case anyone has any doubt or confusion that Communism == Jews == Judaism
@UncleIroh Karl Marx came from a jewish family. It's all the synagogue of satan the bible warned everyone about.
I'm going to hold off replying on this till i'm done with a few chapters of 200 years together.
Moses Hess might have created both Statist Communism and Zionism together
before Marx and Theodore made them "separately" and at later times
In other words Marxist Statist Communism and Zionism might not have been two separate creations but both part of a single plan to exterminate Christians and enslave everyone without a Ashkenazi nor Sephardic Jewish mother who is not exterminated
Moses Hess Jew
Karl Marx Jew
Engels ( gentile ? )
Worked together but I am not sure which one started statist communism first
If Hess started both it and zionism first that would support but not necessarily be sufficient alone before considering other factors to prove my point
@shortstories @basedbagel @Zeb
I'd go further.
The neocon movement was/is still a largely Zionist project. It is this that connects Russian Bolshevism to current day Neocon-Zionism, despite their surface differences in ideology.
The ancestral hatred and generational grudge that Jews had for Christian Slavs, especially Russians, resutled in 10s of millions of deaths. That grudge never went away, and it's the same hatred that animates today's crazy Russia Derangement Syndrome.
"The neocon movement was/is still a largely Zionist"
I agree. I thought I already told you I was ant-Zionist thanks to Ryan Dawson.
"it's the same hatred that animates today's crazy Russia Derangement Syndrome."
No argument from here either.
My only concern is that you insinuate that if we got rid of the Jews everything would be fine.
But I say that the Jews are just the one in charge of this nonsense and they ALL must be removed/exiled if we want peace.
@basedbagel @shortstories @Zeb
> ..you insinuate that if we got rid of the Jews everything would be fine.
I don't know what you mean by "got rid of".
> I say that the Jews are just the one in charge of this nonsense
This didn't just "happen" to Jews, it IS Jews. If you understood their ontological worldview then you could not make a statement like that.
> ALL must be removed/exiled if we want peace.
Agreed.
"> ALL must be removed/exiled if we want peace.
Agreed."
If we agree on this then I see no point in quibbling about what step 1 is.
We don't have the time or the numbers to disagree
Let us say there are celebrities I would call high ranking villains based on what the mainstream media says about them
High ranking meaning position of great influence
A greater percent of them are Jewish than what the mainstream media says is the percent of Jews in the world
They are Jewish according to the mainstream media
But can I trust the mainstream media? No
Talked to Jews at synagogues they seem to have the power & the ideology of high ranking villains
@basedbagel @shortstories @Zeb
Because the key to understanding Jewish collective behavior, past present and future, is in understanding their worldview - ethics, epistemology, metaphysics, ontology.
They are for a start, deeply religious, even the "atheist" ones. Maybe especially the atheist ones. Jews are also revolutionaries to the core.
Just as men are vulnerable if we don't understand hypergamy, nations are vulnerable to Jews if they don't understand the Jewish worldview.
A Jew once told me something like that Atheists have better merit, are better people, love God more, are more righteous, etc. than all other religions because Atheists think about God more than people who do not call themselves Atheists because they spend all their time thinking about God in order to try to disprove God's existence
"They are for a start, deeply religious, even the "atheist" ones. Maybe especially the atheist ones. "
If you have a bad president then assassanating the president is a bad idea
Why?
Because the Vice President will become the next bad President & if you kill every replacement person on the list then
People will just invent some new person or system to enslave them
The solution is not to kill the President but make people especially the police, the military & the Presidents body guards to lose faith in the office of the President
Then they will not blindly obey
@shortstories @UncleIroh @basedbagel
Political and brutal assassinations play an important role in breaking down any system. It threatens the ruling class directly and forces them to be more tyrannical and heavy handed, which causes the desired backlash. It's essentially the best recruitment strategy for the opposition.
I'm link here a great video explaining the nature of power in such scenarios:
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/the-nature-of-power:0
@shortstories @basedbagel @Zeb
> assassanating the president is a bad idea
Yes, hence the saying "The King is dead, long live the King!"
You can kill a king by chopping his head off, but you cannot kill the idea of a king that way.
The only way to truly kill the idea of a king is to replace the entire religious philosophy and societal structure that legitimizes Kingship, with another competing religion and structure.
It's why Patriarchy had to be attacked, otherwise the King comes back.
So you have to get people to stop believing the ideologies that influence people to obey groups of people they delegate as the chosen authority
You have to get a large enough percent of people to disbelieve zionist ideology
Without the zionist so called Christians and people who feel guilty over the alleged holocaust how would the Jews convince people to do their bidding
Let's say a Jew or authority tells someone to do something stupid & everyone just says no
"Without the zionist so called Christians and people who feel guilty over the alleged holocaust how would the Jews convince people to do their bidding"
Easy it's called welfare and social engineering via mass media.
I think covid taught us people will go along with anything for 1,200 and a shiny box
Then get them to stop believing the mass media also
I continue to claim spreading unbelief in certain ideologies is the starting point
Once a correct enough worldview is attained by a large enough percent of people proper action can be attempted in a proper way by a large enough group of people to get better results
Going to log out of here if I post no more replies or no more replies anytime soon that is why
I should not spend all my tine on the internet
"I should not spend all my tine on the internet"
I respect that and I was good talking with you
"Then get them to stop believing the mass media "
I don't know about that but I see where you're coming from @shortstories @UncleIroh @Zeb
> Atheists think about God more than people who do not call themselves Atheists because they spend all their time thinking about God
@shortstories is right about that too.
You can interpret Marx's writings as him howling at God. He constantly thought about God, and his Communism is the result of all his resentment, bitternes and anger.
"Religion is the opiate of the masses" could only come from someone jealous of God and with a lust for power.
I agree with you in theory but from what I saw in college these people weren't thinking about God AT ALL based on how they acted.
Bunch of degenerate, braindead junkies.
"Religion is the opiate of the masses" could only come from someone jealous of God and with a lust for power."
That could be true.
But most likely he's just a crackpot commie. Remember Hanlon's Razor.
People like Marx are so delusional that they are doing good for the world.
@basedbagel @Zeb @shortstories
> But most likely he's just a crackpot commie.
Sigh. Again, I refer you to the components of the Jewish worldview.
If you want a primer on why/how communism and it's bastard son, atheism, are essentially gnostic religions then here:
1. https://www.youtube.com/live/HIkOu0BSD-U?si=ErfTck3KXRX5DLhR
2. https://youtu.be/hvrPYaa27pw?si=ICTNL_34weG4ka_z
They both arrive at largely the same conclusions.
So we're just going to ignore Hanlon's razor because he's a Jew?
You do realize there are plenty of non-jewish commies so if Marx hadn't invented it someone else would have.
As long as there are evious, godless, lazy people communism will never die.
I do not have a problem with communists as long as they do not use violence on people who are not communists to impose communism
I was trying to explain before that I do not think Karl Marx invented communism
There were other people like Bakunin who Karl Marx purged from a political convention
Moses Hess might have been behind Karl Marx communism as he was a communist born before Karl Marx
Moses Hess is also Jewish
The problem I have with Jews is their racism
@dictatordave @basedbagel @shortstories @Zeb
precise head shot.
@UncleIroh @dictatordave @basedbagel @Zeb
What if communists are only claiming to be Jews so that you can be called an anti-semite if you criticize them but they do not really have Jewish ancestry
What if they are not really communists but saying they support communism so that you give them wealth to give to the poor then they give it to themself instead of the poor?
that's the thing though isn't it? It always involves violence against muh counter-revolutionaries
@Kang_Kong3 @basedbagel @UncleIroh @Zeb
A very small percent of people support communism but do not use violence to impose communism on people who do not want it & have actual functioning communes like twin oaks
Technically twin oaks is communist on the inside but not on the outside
They manufacture goods and trade goods with outsiders but they distribute goods with insiders who are members in a communist manner
Adult's are required to work to be members
They can reject membership requests
@Kang_Kong3 @basedbagel @shortstories @Zeb
smash that button!
@shortstories @basedbagel @Zeb
> I do not have a problem with communists as long as they do not use violence on people who are not communists to impose communism
The 20th century would like a word with you.
@basedbagel @Zeb @shortstories
Communism is 100% Jewish.
You are trying to conflate the actual ideology/religion of Communism with Collectivism.
Collectivism is not exclusive to communism and socialism. It’s a broad concept that can be found in a variety of different political, social, and economic systems.
Asian cultures are good examples of this.
@basedbagel @Zeb @shortstories
> So we're just going to ignore Hanlon's razor because he's a Jew?
Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
It's often abused to dismiss or minimize the impact of proven harmful behavior, to absolve people of responsibility for their actions and to use it against situations that don't apply.
In this case, all 3 of those objections are valid.
I judge people on impact > intent.
If your stupidity causes as much damage as an evil person, youre still getting punished.
Idc if you think TWRA is bad because it hurts women's feelings or you're profiting from their unearned freedoms You gotta go
You don't have to accept the historical record of Bolshevism or what Jews say about themselves.
That's entirely up to you.
After everything that's gone on this year I view such people the same way I view those still persuaded by vaxx-logic.
@UncleIroh @Zeb For now here's my official statement:
"Based Bagel is anti-communist, anti-gay, anti-satanist and anti-women's rights in all of its forms. I am prepared to do everything in my power stop it."
One day you will understand how these are all synonyms.
@UncleIroh @Zeb TBH I don't even care they all have to be removed or reformed.
The matrix is a system.
To me killing the jews is like killing the president.
Someone else will just take their place.
We have to destroy the ENTIRE system. i..e (All who promoted the vax)
And replace it with a better one.
That better system starts with TWRA and buildings our own communities up 1st so we aren't as dependent on the scam banking,medical media systems we seek to abolish.
> killing the jews is like killing the president.
Wait, what? What precisely do you think my views are?
From what I've read you see the Jews as one of of the biggest sources of the problem.
Well Jews are people and people don't give up power without bloodshed.
So to me the logical extension of your views are taking power away from the Jews.
I didn't mean to put words in your mouth but that's what I thought.
Either way I've got some reading to do so I'll @ you when I'm a good ways into the book.
> From what I've read you see the Jews as one of of the biggest sources of the problem.
Correct. I advocate for everyone to understand Jews as fully as possible. If anyones history should be additionally taught at school, it's Jewish history, independent of any nations history.
Then I advocate for them to be repatriated/expelled to their country.
Keep host country numbers small. No dual citizenships. No positions of power. No activism of any kind. Harsh penalties.
". No dual citizenships."
Whoa Kemosabe!
Dual citizenship is a critical tool for me to protect my sovereignty.
I don't know why you and TFM get hung up on this dual citizenship thing. It's a necessary evil to save you from vax passports and excessive taxation.
Other than that Everything else you said checks out.
> I don't know why you and TFM get hung up on this dual citizenship thing.
Because it's abuse has lead the US to ruin. Constant neocon/zio wars and a defactro Israeli foreign policy.
No other country's ruling elite has been compromised so heavily.
The ruling elite was compromised with blackmail and bribes for the most part.
Banning dual-citizenship in theory sounds good, but in reality does more harm than good.
When the US goes full commie, what would I do if I didn't have dual citizenship?
I'd lose all my assets/rights when they revoke my digital ID for speaking with an anti-semitic domestic terrorist online.
Fuck that!
Having dual citizenship lets you play countries against each other and keep them honest
> The ruling elite was compromised with blackmail and bribes for the most part.
Ha! Hello darkness my old friend. Epstein & Bankman-Freid are just the latest Mossad characters in a century of pedo-bribery-blackmail-extortion-laundering projects.
We're right back where we started. Weird how that works.
@UncleIroh @Zeb This is true but are we really going to act like jews are the only people who've tried to take power with bribes and blackmail before?
SBF and the Mossad? Thats new to me but would explain alot.
"a century of pedo-bribery-blackmail-extortion-laundering projects"
I hear you but what disturbs me is why do billionares fall for that? There's no amount of cash/validation you could give me to violate a child. So the fact that the billionaires even did it is disturbing.
> SBF and the Mossad? Thats new to me
I'm sure Ryan Dawson has info on that, and there's credible speculation that Epstein's slush fund became the basis for SBF's fund. Keeping dark money dark.
The point is why you find even find that surprising.
> I hear you but ...
yeah, i get that alot from you.
you know evil exists, that "power corrupts .." is a universal no matter what power is wielded or who wields it, and then pikachu-face when powerful people do evil things.
men have and always will be corruptible through sex & money.
having the global elite in your back pocket through sex & money blackmail will always work.
the hollywood, media and political elites are almost all controlled through mutually assured dirt on each other - sex & money.
Ryan Dawson has legit grievances against Whitney Webb plagiarizing his research but her books are still worth reading:
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-Blackmail-Vol/dp/B0BYQGK3Z4/
Whitney webb is one diabolical bitch but I have mixed feelings.
On one hand she provided a normie-friendly guide to people understanding how the real word works.
If people looked into dawson and saw his stance on TWRA and the confederate flag they'd throw the baby out with the bathwater.
So in that way I'm king of happy.
Bu as a creator I HATE when people steal your shit and profit off it because you've been DE platformed and can't defend yourself or call it out.
It's a scummy way to move in the world, stealing other peoples shit and financially gaining from it.
On the other hand, Dawson has gained much more recognition since October 7th and that's a good thing.
" "power corrupts .." is a universal no matter what power is wielded or who wields it, and then pikachu-face when powerful people do evil things"
It's not a pikachu face, you mistake my inaction for apathy.
We're on the outskirts of the internet pseudonymously because we can't have this conversation in a coffee shop without losing our livelihoods.
The best we can do is prepare and wait as we don't have the numbers to make things right... yet
Joke's on you, I'm a tea drinker.
But seriously, it would be good to be able to do that.
Also, I'm not mistaking your inaction for apathy, I'm atrributing you naiivete for some of your takes.
You say I'm naive, I say I'm not a boomer.
I know you have kids so you're aware of how USELESS public school is. The fact that I came out of that fool system and self studied my way here is a great feat.
Keep in mind I work full time and run a side business so I don't have time to do deep research like I used to.
Back in the day I could have knocked out 200 years together on winter break.
These days it take me much longer.
Public school is cancer, and any of us who get here in spite of it have something.
Just stick with it and take bites whenever.
@basedbagel @UncleIroh
We used to be able to have this conversation when we had gentleman's clubs and cigar shops where females were not allowed.
Now you're talking my language.
A gentleman's only cigar lounge where dudes are free to network their business, shit talk about whatever the fuck they want while enjoying a Cohiba and a whisky sounds like heaven.
@basedbagel @Zeb @UncleIroh
Moses (Moritz)[2] Hess (21 January 1812 – 6 April 1875)[1] was a German-Jewish philosopher, early communist and Zionist thinker.[3] His socialist theories led to disagreements with Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.[4] He is considered a pioneer of Labor Zionism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Hess
Theodor Herzl[a] (2 May 1860 – 3 July 1904)[3] was an Austro-Hungarian Jewish journalist and political activist who was the father of modern political Zionism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Herzl