If a underage woman has children with a underage man they would have to lock both of them up in jail or prison and take the children away and give them to someone who is not on welfare to take care of them, Otherwise the person who is underage could keep on having children with other people who are underage if they are not locked in jail. If someone under age has children with someone over age then you could just lock the over age person in jail and force adoption instead of welfare
@shortstories - I would have arranged marriages for females, with betrothal eligibility at 15, and marriageability at 16.
I would get rid of public school, so young females have less freedom to get themselves pregnant. They would exist in a sharia-like system (minus all the mandatory praying & fasting). Fathers will have authority, so if his daughter sneaks out to meet some guy, a consequence-free ass whipping can await her return home. Or perhaps, a Singapore-style caning if warranted.
@shortstories - In order to avoid such pain, a young female can simply obey her father, and then her husband.
If a young female should get pregnant outside of marriage, and outside of rape (to be determined by trial, and punishable by death or castration for the rapist - depending on his general usefulness)... then that pregnant young female is on her own.
A few slutty young females will get pregnant, and will suffer the consequences alone... and will serve as examples to others. 💁🏻♂️
You do not have to officially force adoption. But do not give them any welfare if they choose not to send their children for adoption and to keep them.
If there is no prison or death penalty or fine then you are effectively removing age of consent
If you have age of consent laws you need jails or death penalty
Gov death penalty is bad because they have a history of putting innocent people to death which can not be reversed where as you can release people found innocent from jails.
@shortstories - For clarity, these are not ideas for our current state, country, or govt. All of that is doomed, and in the process of collapsing. There is no fixing all of that.
These are hypothetical ideas for how to run a small community in the aftermath. 🍻
@shortstories - In a post-collapse world, there's an in-group, and an out-group.
In-group (or "citizens") have many more rights. All official courtship and marriage laws apply to citizens.
There's no welfare, and no prison. There is a death penalty, and corporeal punishment (caning works). Banishment is also a judicial option.
The US criminal court system was developed in pre-industrial times, and is a good model in general - or the best that I can think of in the absence of video.
@shortstories - the out-group is where the war brides come from. There's no records in post-collapse. And no one's checking IDs. These are the females that are left after an enemy group is vanquished. They would be free to join their men in the afterlife... but they probably won't. They would be assigned to warriors as property. Such is life (and most of human history).
@shortstories - I foresee adoption being very rare. In most cases, orphans will be cared for by extended family.
Family will be the bedrock of whatever society arises from the ashes, as it always has been.
State authority will be severely reduced. Govt will become skeletal, because govt is luxury of a rich society. And society won't be rich after collapse. There probably won't even be electricity. So naturally, the surveillance state is going away.
Men will be in charge of their families.
@shortstories - But if a child should be left with absolutely no one to take them in, then whatever leader is in charge, may arrange for an apprenticeship for that child.
The child will make themselves as useful as possible to a tradesman, learn a trade in the process, and have food and shelter in the meantime.
Life will become very hard. And I don't anyone will too much time to squabble amongst each other. People will get along because they have to, and those that can't will perish.
Death penalty for rape plus false rape accusations is a big problem
People will be found guilty of rape then they find out they are innocent after they are dead
There should be a penalty for falsely accusing a man of rape.
If the man would get the death penalty or a certain amount of time in jail then a woman who falsely accuses him should get the same penalty
Another penalty might be the woman who falsely accuses the man can be enslaved by the man who can sell her as a slave
@shortstories - Ah, that has crossed my mind.
Sexes will be segregated. Women's spaces will be their sewing circle and their home. Men's spaces will pretty much be everywhere else.
If sex occurs in a women's space, it is presumed to be rape. If sex occurs in a men's space, it is presumed to be infidelity.
Rape becomes a property crime, and justice is pursued by a woman's father or husband. That is the aggrieved party. And in cases that go to trial, that's who files the complaint.
@shortstories - infidelity could result in divorce (at the aggrieved man's discretion). In such a case, a woman is cast out... with no welfare, no kids, no house, no affirmative action job, and no future obligation from her now ex-husband. She is cast out with nothing.
If her originally family still loves her, they can take her in, but there's no obligation.
She would probably fall into prostitution. No one's ever eradicating the oldest profession, after all. She will be a sad example.
@shortstories - Sounds overly complicated to me. Speaking hypothetically, I would do things differently.
Prison and welfare are expensive. And forced adoption comes with too many hazards for the adoptees. I would have people keep their kids (so long as those kids aren't abused), regardless of the circumstances of their birth... and the parents can live with the consequences.
To prevent bastard children, I would make females property - first of their fathers, and then of their husbands.