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Videos like this piss me off. Of course Dave Ramsey's advice is not going to "get you rich." The people he is working with are those who are so far in a financial hole that they need a simple, foolproof plan to get them out. Dave Ramsey has that plan.

You should not be worried about trying out for the Major Leagues in baseball when you cannot even hit the ball off a tee. So stop huffing about his advice not making you rich, it is not supposed to do that.

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Another example of the same thing. "Not all debt is bad debt!" Yes, that is true. But the people that need Dave Ramsey are clearly incapable to dealing with ANY debt. You should not be trying to get into making money on rental properties if you cannot handle your credit card debt. Getting into rental properties comes with many risks, which the people who need Dave Ramsey cannot afford, as they already are in a hole.

And airline miles being a positive example for "credit card debt is not always bad" is retarded. Hey Joshua, if you are spending money with your credit card so that you can get "free airline miles," you are an idiot. Don't give me this "you are spending the money anyways." Usually, you are spending more than you normally would under the justification of getting something for "free." When you have a lot of debt, you need to cut spending. Which means credit card spending is going to be bad always.

Another analogy I can think of is complaining about someone who is giving general fitness and diet advice to fat people because "They will never become a professional athlete with that advice!"

If you are a fatass who just needs to learn how to eat less and exercise, the least of your worries is being one of the greatest athletes in the world.

"Look how much Michael Phelps eats in a day! Clearly eating a lot is not always bad!"

Again, you are talking to fatasses, not people on Phelp's level.

@basedbagel @houseoftolstoy

250 Calories per donut

100 Calories per mile walked ( it might be more if obese )

If walking at 3 miles per hour burns 300 Calories

Then if you eat a donut you have to walk an extra 50 minutes

It is easier to not eat the donut

Since running or any high calories exercise if you are obese hurts the joints you are very limited in how much weight you can lose by exercising per week if you are obese

Obese people will use exercise as an excuse to eat junk food

@shortstories @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy exactly
you'll never work off hours of eating junk food even if you're hitting the gym every other day for a couple hours, the calorie burns are never going to add up

also doing low intensity shit like walking is never going to get someone thin, that's just shoe sales bullshit

that's not to say you can't eat dirty, but you have to be at a fitness level that already allows for that, starting fat you're already super far behind and eating dirty will not work

like i can eat a couple donuts before i ice climb, because i'm in ice climbing shape

@dictatordave @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy

I would not advise obese people to lose weight by exercising because they will use exercise as an excuse to continue eating junk food & they can never lose significant weight while eating the amount of junk food that made them obese in the 1st place even if they add on as much low intensity exercise as their time & joint health permits

I am talking only about people so heavy that anything more metabolically intense than walking will injure them

@shortstories @dictatordave @basedbagel Good point. Most weight loss is a matter of diet. Exercise can help accelerate weight loss, but not nearly as much a eating properly.

There is a saying I like in reference to this: You can't outrun your fork.

Just looking at the rough estimates when I run on a treadmill, 10 minutes of running is about 100 calories. It takes far less time to eat 100 calories.

@houseoftolstoy @shortstories @dictatordave @basedbagel calories dont actualy mean anythign to your body whatsoever. calories is how much water heats from burning food. wich your body doesnt literealy burn food it converts it. its about what you eat. and to not be eating all day

@markcuban @basedbagel @shortstories @dictatordave I find that it is more accurate to say that fat people miscount the number of calories they take in (e.g. not counting a Starbucks coffee chock full of sugar). And they often claim that calories is bogus because they insist that they eat well (but don't).

Yes, your body will not be able to use every single calorie in the food you eat. But if you eat under the amount of food your body needs to maintain the current weight, you will lose weight.

@markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy @dictatordave

Calories on nutrition labels do not measure how much heat you get from food when you put it in a flame

Fiber often has 0 Calories on nutrition labels but if you burn it in a flame it would produce or remove some amount of heat other than 0 in a exothermic or endothermic reaction

Calories measure how much mechanical energy + heat the body can get at the most by chemically transforming food in a chemical path that sometimes is not fire

@markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy @dictatordave

In the case of carbohydrate other than fiber the amount of energy would be the same as for the chemical path if it is perfectly burned to produce H2O and CO2 but in the case of protein I doubt that it is broken down in the same chemical pathway as if you stick it in a fire

And in the case of 0 Calorie fiber it is not broken down at all chemically in the human body but if you stick it in fire it undergoes a chemical change

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@markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy @dictatordave

Fiber is listed as Carbohydrate

Non Fiber Carbohydrate produces 4 Calories per gram for humans

In the case of some fibers they might produce 2 Calories per gram for instead of the typical 4 Calories per gram for other Carbohydrates or 0 per gram like other fiber because although the human body does not break them down other micro organisms break them down and excrete material the human body uses for nutritional Calories

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@markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy @dictatordave

The 4 Calories per gram for Carbohydrate assumes a specific metabolic path of Aerobic Metabolism

In some cases if there is not enough oxygen after converting sugar to pyruvate it gets less calories by converting that pyruvate to lactic acid instead of the normal pathway once the body gets enough oxygen it converts the lactic acid back to pyruvate and completes the aerobic metabolism process and in the end makes the same amount of Calories

@shortstories @markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy interesting side bar, when i went to iceland i noticed their labels talk about the joules of energy you need to use to work off the calories you're eating

most people can't figure out calories to save their lives

but if you shoot for a 500 calorie deficit you'll see results, and you dont need to count, you just need to not eat like a pig

@dictatordave @markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy

1 Calorie = 1 Kcal = 1000 calories

1 calorie = amount of heat to increase 1 gram of water 1 degree C

1 Joule = Amount of work to move 1 Newton of weight 1 meter against gravity

1 Kilogram weighs about 9.8 Newtons

Since Calories go partly to mechanical work & partly to heat calculations for how many Calories it takes to do mechanical work are not perfect

Vertical against gravity Calories can be calculated

Horizontal travel problematic

@shortstories @markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy all i know is lifting heavy and taking a vitamin is more useful information than yammering about calories that fat ass normies dont understand or care about to begin with

@dictatordave @markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy

Horizontal travel should be 0 Calories or Joules because you are not moving against gravity but perpendicular to hit

But people found about 100 Calories per mile

For vertical travel you can take body weight * height to calculate Joules than convert Joules to Calories than multiply or divide by some constant based on how much food chemical energy is metabolized to heat vs used for mechanical work

@dictatordave @markcuban @basedbagel @houseoftolstoy @shortstories

I've never been convinced that it's possible to count calories. There is no meter, no gauge, no visible units going in and out, and no two persons have the same metabolism. It's always a very wild guess at best.

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