If you didn't know already, Jews want you to convert to Christianity and say that "Christ is King".
This is the ancient secret to Jewish success, lead the opposition and let the shabbos goy do all the work for you.
If they want to convert people to Christianity then why do Kikes
Try to ban Christmas
Try to ban the name of Jesus
Try to ban Christian Proselytization
Literally have the name Kike because the refuse to sign a cross shape and choose to sign a circle instead
Say that Jesus was rightfully killed in the Talmud and is boiling in excrement and semen in hell
Call Jesus mother a whore who had sex with pantera
Deny that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh
Drive over Churches and Christian Graves
Spit on Christians
Face away from the cross and spit three times
Put Christian missionaries in jail for preaching in Israel
Put Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish converts to Christianity who call themselves Messianic Jews in jail for preaching about Jesus
Refuse to talk to their daughter if she married a Christian as in Fiddler on the Roof
All to try to encourage people to become Christians that makes no sense
Also they are commanded to "Hate the missionary" in the 613 commandments
Wouldn't they love the Christian missionaries doing the work of converting people to Christianity if they wanted them to become Christians
How would Ben Shapiro feel about people saying Jesus is The God YHWH rather than some trivial thing like Jesus is King? It really seems to me like he is trying to downplay people away from Jesus when the New Testament people called Jesus God
@shortstories As long as you believe Jesus is the same entity as God, it's fine, you're 100% noahide compliant and Ben approves. It's only if you say Jesus and God are two different divine entities that is getting dangerously close to paganism, as far as they're concerned. But do you think this little detail even matters? As a christian, you believe everything they want the goyim to believe.
There's no denying it, it's too obvious, Christianity is 100% kosher. Just don't try converting Jews.
"All Jewish denominations agree that the bible teaches it is idolatrous for a Jew to believe that God exists as a trinity and becomes incarnate in bodily form"
https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/denouncing-defending-the-targeting-of-jews
Five of the Noahide Commandments....
1. Do Not Worship a False Deity...
2. Do Not Commit Blasphemy...blasphemy thus is prohibited to Gentiles
https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/biblical-sources-7-noachide-laws
Roman Catholics
Eastern & Oriental Orthodox
Church of the East
Lutheran
All not Noahides according to Jews for Judaism
@Based_Accelerationist
"Third, Ramban demonstrated how the Christian belief in the Trinity and Yeshu's birth could not be believed by any thinking Jew. The Trinity is outright idol worship, for it is belief in three gods"
known in the Jewish world by the acronym "Rambam"...
"Maimonides," is one of the most important figures in the history of Torah scholarship
Maimonides, a most important scholar to kikes, taught Christians are idol worshipers
@shortstories Since you brought up Maimonides, let's see what else he said about Christianity and Islam...
He considers them "stepping stones towards true enlightenment" and wrote that "thanks to both these religions the world has become full of the ideas of the Messiah, the ideas of the Torah and the ideas of the commandments, so that these have spread to faraway islands and to many dim hearted nations, and they now discuss these ideas and the commandments of the Torah".
It's that simple.
@shortstories So yes, he considers the trinity to be paganism (worship of more than one god). As I said, Christians who believe God and Jesus are the same entity, aren't blasphemous by Noahide standards.
Jews want all whites to be Christians. Would they prefer if they either ditched Jesus or thought of him as God itself (as opposed to a separate entity)? Sure. But that's a small detail, they'd much rather you believe in Jesus and say "Jesus is King", than to be areligious or a pagan.
"So yes, he considers the trinity to be paganism (worship of more than one god). As I said, Christians who believe God and Jesus are the same entity, aren't blasphemous by Noahide standards"
So at least 59.7% of people who call themselves Christians are blasphemous according to them & do not qualify as Noahides.
Catholics & Orthodox are trinitarian & believe God the Father & Jesus are separate entities
"Catholic (48.6%)"
"Orthodox (11.1%)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members
@shortstories If you speak to Catholics, many will tell you God and Jesus are all part of the same divinity, but in different forms. And if you ask them how many gods there are, they'll tell you that there is only one.
So I wouldn't be so sure about those numbers.
And even at the time, other Jewish scholars disagreed with Maimonides about Catholicism being lite paganism.
From what I've heard Jews nowadays view most Christians as Noahide compliant.
@shortstories So it's not as if Jews dislike Jesus because of the concept of the "trinity". It's primarily for "historical" reasons, as they believe he tried to convert/deceive them and wanted to overthrow Judaism in Israel.
Ask any of them and they'll tell you Jesus was a Jew, it's not as if they have a problem with you worshiping him. Even some of the more extreme rabbis are on video rejoicing about the goyim submitting to Jesus.
I am not saying the all variations of the Trinity are self contradictory but the way most people present the Trinity it is self contradictory. They list all the properties of Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit as being the same but then say that they are all different than one another. They can not have all the same properties if they are different.
@shortstories Yes, the concept of the "trinity" has become pretty muddled. I imagine that when Christianity originated as Catholicism, the big selling point was Jesus himself. So the trinity was clear and more relevant, as the followers were brought in primarily because of the tale of Jesus.
But as we know, Christianity has changed quite a bit and I'm sure the Jews leading the church undermined the role of Jesus and the whole idea of the trinity to the point where now it has become a mess.
So the Bible seems to mean God when they mention the Holy Spirit, The Son or the Father but it never mentions the Trinity directly. The original creeds never specified that those were three different things They were first called hypostasis in creeds which was later changed to persona and then person.
Some people in the Church of the East said Jesus human nature is not divine and his divine nature is not human but they are United in a single Sonship
Basically they voted on the truth which I think is a bad way to determine the truth and when there were large groups that disagreed on the vote they split into separate instituitions.
So I would say the moment they changed it from Persona to Person in the creeds really big contradictions crept in
Now the Bible never says that God is a certain number of personas or hypostasis or persons. The Bible does use the term hypostasis but never says how many hypostasis God is
The idea that the Pope was infallible being imposed on people was not official until approximately 1870
There are a lot of different Roman Catholic denominations but the largest one that claims the Pope is infallible and the current Pope is legitimate did not exist until around 1870 even though they call themself the oldest Christian Denomination it can clearly be shown to be a lie if you study the history of these voting councils
Newer than Lutherans who were recent
@shortstories That's pretty interesting, I didn't know that. All I know is the concept has become a mess and as you said, somewhat self contradictory in some instances.
It's a shame we have to waste time decoding all this nonsense because Jews, Christians and Muslims keep their cults relevant to geopolitics, by being giant NPCs. If I had to take a course in theology, I'd rather learn about the beliefs that came from the actual lands of my ancestors and not this Abrahamic Middle Eastern crap.
@Based_Accelerationist
The Oriental Orthodox said Jesus was fully human and fully divine as a single entity with no separation disagreeing with some of the people in the Church of the East
The Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox took a third position that I do not understand
The Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox disagree about if the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father only or from both the Father and the Son