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There is a meme claiming

Low & High Intelligent people tend to believe the same things

But Average intelligent people tend to believe something that contradicts them

Sometimes it seems like my first opinion on an issue started at lpw intelligence then changed to a contradicting middle intelligence opinion then after further thought and research becomes that of high intelligence which was my initial belief at my low intelligence stage

Sometimes I go straight from low to high skipping middle

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There might be times where I have a low intelligence opinion and I am told a middle intelligence opinion but doubt the official mid intelligence opinion for years only to one day understand the high intelligence opinion which was the same as the low intelligence opinion after years of thought, research or life exoerience

At other times I may have been fooled and sincerely believe the mid intelligence deception fod years only to realize I was wrong later

@DMA

It is possible to combine linguistics and logic to understand the implications of a claim that was made which used words even though many people do not choose to interpret texts that way in terms of the mainstream opinion in religious and legal fields

I was good. The math and pattern recognition I stank. I guessed five. So an Average score. I am not a genius. Or didn’t care. Rushed through it. Purposely tried to fail.

Who knows. I love scriptures better.

@DMA

I currently chose not to marry, date or hook up with people

I am unmarried and not currently looking to get married

But if you are consistent abput logic and linguistics the Old and New Testament never have a rule forbidding all men to engage in polygyny the only rules that forbid it ate extremely specific and do not apply to all men

I mention this because it shows many so called Bible scholars and Clergy or Bible teachers do not combine logic and linguistics honestly

My score was high in that area. I am married. My last dating time was 1986 to my sweetie of 40 years. Honoring marriage is a Godly requirement. My vow has been firm.

My conscience will be clean.

@DMA

Could the aohasia patients read and write in a comprehensible manner as long as they did not have to speak?

Listening skills enable that. Language is hear and learned through practice. Visual learning is another skill. You speak mentally.

@DMA

How do they test patients with "aphasia" on "pure logic" without using "words" do words include numbers and or symbols?

Number and symbols depending on visual abilities. I don’t see shapes correctly. Rorschach test. Is an example.

@shortstories
That's what happened to me. I believed the low intelligence opinion instinctively because it's logical and easily provable but, for my dismay, the adults, superiors and most peers where mid intelligence that due to hierarchy and a desire to fit (believing wrongly that they had a reason), I accepted it to fit in.

What I learned after figuring out I was right all along, now in the high intelligence camp, is to never doubt my instinct and logic, plus the masses are retarded.

It's the gaslighting. It's really hard to escape the programming if you're not autist, you're horny all the time and you don't have (or don't believe) the right men who tell you the truth in your life.

@shortstories
It's easy to explain. Low intelligence people must face against reality directly and must learn to deal with it or straight up die.

Middle intelligence people are one or two steps away fron direct reality but can't really process abstractions...they are like automatons who can follow instructions.

High intelligence is where you are able to differentiate reality from abstractions, understand their relationship and create mew things/concepts that are effective irl.

@Zeb

But have you ever observed a person going through phases from low to middle to high intelligence

Or are you assuming the same person fits in the same category for their level of intelligence throughout thejr whole life

My point is for me personally I seemed to change from one stage of intelligence to another on a single issue for many individual issues

IMO it doesn't really track IQ, it's more a case of intellectual imposter syndrome (they are actually imposters).

People who want to consider themselves smarter than they really are listen to a lot of big wordy pseudointellectual mumbo-jumbo from other people want to consider themselves smarter than they are, and they don't understand it, but they pretend that if they just nod along, they'll convince people that they're smart.

So they all end up kind of converging on these general consensuses (consensii?) like "trust the science" etc...

@cjd @Zeb

Mathematicians tend to have high IQ and tend to really have to be smart in a way that involves something more than wordy mumble jumble and also I do not remember a math major ever telling me they were smart because they got a high IQ score and they do not need to because being able to do the math is proof that you are smart in and of itself

@cjd @Zeb

Sometimes math equations people choose to model reality do not reflect reality but there are rules to how the equations work to get an input from an output or vice versa that you have to be smart to know how to use without a calculator or computer

@shortstories @cjd
Math is a good example. If it's easy to simplify, follow instructions and even model things according to already existing formulas and functions, I consider it low math: science computing, statistics, engineering, finance, etc.

Then you have high math, where you're not only using it but creating new theorems, new models, simulating new realitiesL Physicists, theoretical mathematicians, applied math and researchers, maybe astrophysicians and cryptologists.

Mid intelligence can be competent low mathematicians and they are the backbone of maintaining a first world country civilization running and progressing.

High intelligence will tend to be on the former camp because they can process the level of abstraction necessary and they can apply it to the real world, where they will actually put the instruction in low math format for the mid IQ people. They're vital but they're a very small group.

The issue today is we're running out of both.

@Zeb @cjd

This is more nuance but I feel like

engineers use low math
Physicists use mid math
Mathematicians use high math

They kind of make up their own math models in physics but they also check the models against reality so it is between the two

I think in astronomy, astrophysics and theoritical physics it is common to make stuff up with no empirical proof and the math is not checked thoroughly to see if it is correct either the way it would be in mathematics or other fields of physics

@shortstories @cjd
I understand your point, although I differ a bit with the conclusion.

Low math = algorithms, already defined.
Mid math = new models, checked against reality, experimentation.
High math = new abstract models, not empirical proof.

In high math you can't really prove but you can derive a lot of hypotheses based on the implication of the new model, map consequences according to causality and study how it would interact with reality, logically. It's very abstract but useful.

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