Based or more gynocentrism? Genuinely curious cause I think there’s a case for both.
@Pain66 - I think it all depends on the context. In a patriarchy, it would've been perfectly acceptable, and perhaps even based.
But under the current structure, it's a gynocentric setup that accomplishes nothing. That daughter is still going to fuck a sports team in one night, at some point before she graduates.
The father is attempting to maintain the illusion of control over his daughter, at the expense of a young lad's face. ➡️
@Pain66 - ➡️ I have a boy around that age, 🤔 and if it were him... Me and the girl's father would have a discussion.
But this is just matriarchy in action. It always returns a bitter harvest. The giveaway is that there were likely zero negative consequences for the daughter. No ass whipping there... and that is equally appropriate as hitting the lad.
The father greenlighted letting a horny boy into his horny daughter's bedroom.
By any account that is dumb as all hell. It effectively communicates to both kids "I'm basically OK with it, but I'll give you extra hoops to jump through. Wink."
This is the non-religious in a nutshell, stumbling from one parenting moral crisis to the next, and no clue as to why or why not X behavior is OK or not. Religious fathers wouldn't tolerate the scenario to begin with.
@UncleIroh @YoMomz @Pain66 It has nothing to do with religion. It’s just weakness and stupidity.
Learning how to understand and overcome our inherent weaknesses and stupidity is EXACTLY the domain of religion.
@UncleIroh yeah but you don’t need religion for it. Well for the stupid masses you do.
Incorrect. For example, your previous statements are a great example of ignorance and stupdity.
Without exception, everyone demonstrates weakness and stupidity over the course of their lives. Everyone.
Parenting under religious patriarchy, whether Jewish, Muslim, Christian or something else draws a clear boundary around these very simple issues.
@UncleIroh but why do you need religion for these boundaries and principles?
Because only religions come with a set of battle-tested ethics on how to behave & why. Especially behaviors that lead to society-destroying consequences.
An atheists only belief is anti-religion. They're never "for" anything unless it's for more rights, less consequences. Usually, it's just buttsex.
That father couldn't tell you why it was wrong to let his horny daughter invite a horny 13yr old boy into her bedroom, so he allowed it & then overreacted even though it was obvious.
He knew on some deep instinctual level that it was weak and stupid to permit that behavior, but his atheist liberal programming overrode all of that.
He's left with no tools, no ethical guidance, no boundaries, no authority, just a set of deep instincts he cannot understand or justify.
Inevtiably this leaves him open to rage and violence. Atheism has made him weak and stupid.
@UncleIroh Yeah this is nothing more than religious bullshit.
I’m an atheist and I’m not a degenerate faggot, neither is TFM.
It’s not religion, it’s weakness.
> I’m an atheist and I’m not a degenerate faggot
So what. Atheism cannot tell you why you shouldn't be. Or why your son shouldn't be a degenerate faggot. Or whether he should cut his dick off. Or anything at all.
Atheism literally has nothing to say about anything, because everything is permitted and any stance just comes down to "well I like this and i don't like that".
@UncleIroh And religion is all about telling you how to behave just because an unproven God says so.
You’re falling into this trap of thinking you can’t have moral principles without religion, even though all morality is subjective.
That father's daughter will likely sport-fuck her way to double digits by the time she hits 18, but his great-grandfather, who statistically was probably religious, had none of these issues.
Your arguments about religion are moot since atheism is a family and society--destroying way of life that cannot be sustained beyond another generation or two.
Over time, this is a self-correcting problem since atheism is literally wiping itself out.
@UncleIroh Right so yeah you’ve 100% fallen into this trap of believing that patriarchy can only come from religion.
Why do I need to believe in a god to tell a bitch “no”?
You've fallen into the trap of believing that people fall into religious traps.
"It takes a village to raise a child".
Have you seen the village? They're a bunch of atheist whores busy raising more atheist whores in between killling babies.
You are delusional.
@UncleIroh go prove your god before calling someone else delusional.
Why would I need to prove that? I already know.
@UncleIroh Well if you want me or others to care about what you’re saying you need to prove you’re not just making stuff up.
There is no need for me to prove anything, I already know what I believe. Why would I care what you believe about me? That makes no sense.
If you want ME to listen to what you say about religion then prove your religion is actually true first.
And don’t say that the answer is to worship God yet just dismiss anyone asking you to prove god by saying “well I know it’s true so I don’t have to prove it”. That’s how women think.
This is so stereotypical of religious people.
You seem to think I want to convince you of something? No, I don't. I could care less whether you listen or not.
Go and find out for yourself or scream in your bitch's face. I'm not your daddy.
@UncleIroh “This is the non-religious in a nutshell, stumbling from one parenting moral crisis to the next, and no clue as to why or why not X behavior is OK or no. Religious fathers wouldn't tolerate the scenario to begin with.”
“I don’t need to convince you religion is true or the correct way to do things.”
> pick one
@UncleIroh you don’t need religion to have patriarchy.
Haha, delusional fool.
@UncleIroh ok so you think you do need religion. Why?
Go and read some history books for God's sake. Do your own homework.
@UncleIroh Oh yeah let’s see all the wars that have been fought because of religion.
Do you even realize how contradictory and feminine your way of thinking is?
You say lack of religion is the problem, but then you point out it’s specifically weak men. I then say you don’t need religion to have patriarchy and you call me delusional. So then I ask to prove your religion and your god and you just say “I don’t she to prove anything to you I know it’s true.” like something Destiny would day.
You have a bug up your ass about religion so perhaps you were diddled by a priest or something.
Since you need me to tell you what to do, I'll throw you a bone.
Go and study world history and learn about all the proud patriarchal atheist empires and civilizations that have ruled the world.
Attaboy.
@UncleIroh Ok so now you’re just mad I called you out on your bullshit.
Not mad. Amused and irritated in turns like a father is by a whiny child screaming that life's not fair she has to eat her vegetables.
That's you.
@Mr_Mister
And where in anything did I say that you, you have to be religious?
Everything I've said is an accurate description of the facts on the ground. Religious patriarchal families divorce less, fact.
I could care less if you're religious, that's on you. Doesn't make the facts any less true. Go shout no to a bitch if you want.
Your need for validation comes off as weak-minded.