@shortstories after i reseted the language it asked my how much i know from it I said almost nothing so I should have the experience that will have any brand new learner.

I learn languages every other day but I move from Russian to German, Spanish, Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and last is Korean.

I personally have it for long time so I have something to do.

But will probably watch videos about korean language to push it more.

@Stahesh

You have to spend all or none commitment with Korean, Japanese and Arabic

You can skip around with German and Soanish because you know the English Alphabet

@Stahesh

I would suggest that Korean is easier than Japanese and Arabic

Do not even study Japanese or Arabic until you learn the Korean Alphabet

Just take a notebook and write each consonant paired with each of the simple vowels

Do not even use Duolingo to learn it other than to remember the sounds

After you can write all the consonants from memory paired with simple vowels without looking at something else

Then you have memorized the alphabet for the first time & you can switch languages

@Stahesh

Korean has an alphabetical order for the consonants learn it and write them in that order in the notebook until you can write in alphabeticak order without a guide

Next you can do that with Arabic or Japanese Alphabets but not the Japanese Pictograms

And switch between all three until you do not forget when you switch back to the previousv language

Arabic writing practice has to be done in a special way because the letter changes shape based on whers it is in a word

@Stahesh

I have some typos where I hit one ketter off I assume you can figure it out

@shortstories Yea i do not mind missing few letters.

@Stahesh

So to summarize it learning Korean and Arabic Alphabets require writing in a notebook the letters combined with other letters in addition to duolingo and putting in a lot of time up front until the alphabet is learned compared to English letter languages

@Stahesh

I mean require if you want to learn faster and to be able to write without a computer

@shortstories Yea I feel it that I need to do it especially in chine and arabic when your memory is needed more.

Same with japanese too long alphabet to memorize only from duolingo.

So i think korean is easier from all of the asian languages because it looks like it was westernized.

@Stahesh @shortstories korean will be easier to read yes

@Stahesh @shortstories its not westernized in any way its just easier to read

@eris @shortstories maybe not but many foods or thing is similar like ice cream, coffee, black, white, diamond, phone etc are just similar like coffee they say kopi and sound like English words just with Asian accents.

@Stahesh @shortstories that is south korea that borrows words from english. north korea doesnt at all they make up words or borrow from russian

@Stahesh @shortstories and the writeing and language is from before contacting english peopel at all

@Stahesh @eris

guppy like the how you say the fish called guppy in English is either photocopies or coffee

A lot of words spelled with a K sound when transliterated into English letters sometimes sound like a G sound in Korean

When they say KimChi it seems to be like approxinately half the time I hear Gimchi and the other half I hear Kimchi and from the same person

@shortstories @Stahesh its the same in japanese there is no diference between k and g

@Stahesh @eris

There is a free class from cyber university of korea which starts with a speaker teaching in English and Korean and I think they do not have a Korean native speaker speak it the way he talks I think maybe his parents were Korean but he grew up in the United States and then at a certain point they switched to lessons being entirely in Korean without having covered all the basic grammar points that they should do first.

And they have a black person talking in only Korean

@Stahesh @eris

Unless a black person or white person was born in Korea and grew up there they are probably not the best to listen to if you want to know what Korean sounds like without a foreign accent and for the class that is going to be entirely in Korean language they could have picked any of the Koreans living in Korea to teach but they picked a black person

@Stahesh @eris

So regarding the borrowed words from English in Duolongo I assume they teach that at the start because they think it will be easier and make native English speakers more comfortable with the Korean alphabet

But as you get into later units a lower percent of the vocabularly is borrowed from English

And Duolingo is not the only teaching material that starts with borrowed words

@Stahesh

So because the Korean alphabet is easier I would work on it first instead of all three at once

I would do Korean practice before German and Spanish because you already are closer to knowing their alohabets since they are almost the same as English

Once you have the Korean alphabet memorized you can reduce time on it and just maintain it and then pick another language to focus on

Or do not do Korean, Arabic or Japanese at all until you completed the courses in the easier languages

@Stahesh

Also Indonesian uses English letters and is in closer to English word order than Korean

Indonesian might be an easier language for beginners than Korean on Duolingo

I do not know because I had more Korean experience so I could get farther in Korean but Indonesian looks like it would be simpler to me if I had no exoerience in either language

@Stahesh

So I think I was studying it at least 12 hours per week for maybe 1 to 2 months

But I would still forget at first

But now I can go for months without studying and still remember

After you relearn it enough times it stays in your memory

So after you learn the alphabet well enough then simply translating sentences forces you to use the alphabet every time you read or write

@Stahesh

Continous translating at least once a day helps prevent forgetting but I would be translating at least 7 hours a week when not listening to lectures or reading a textbook

If you take a notebook and write every combination of one consonant followed by one vowel it will take a long time but it will help your memory

Pay careful attentiom to if the vowel goes to the right of or below the consonant