@Tfmonkey It does not surprise me that he was on steroids, as he has a body that is almost impossible to attain naturally.
You can pick 2 out of the three:
Big
Lean
Natural
Given he was big and lean, he clearly was not natural.
You can still lift weights and get a decent appearance while being natural. You just might not look as impressive for the normie masses who do not realize that you need to be taking steroids to look like this guy.