@Tfmonkey regarding the Libertarian party, you are correct that they are generally useless and often counterproductive. But with their own words, I have seen them claim to be cutting welfare spending and removing tax dollars from the healthcare system. But since they are only empty words, it is functionally the same thing as them being opposed to cutting that kind of spending.
@Tfmonkey The big problem with many libertarians is that they think they can implement their policies in any order and cheer even when they get open borders without realizing that having open borders means they will lose any possibility of cutting welfare. "Don't worry, we are working on that problem too!"
That is where the retardation is with many libertarians and the Libertarian party.
Refuse to see race
Refuse to see genetic repeatable traits in race
Refuse to address Jewish Power
Refuse to collectise , still solo individuals
The problem with Libertarians supporting open borders is if they open the borders to people whose world view is farther away from Libertarianism then the people who come in will support policies in the opposite direction of Libertarianism and they will use violence or thre threat of violence to support such policies
@houseoftolstoy yeah, they're stupid. You won't hear me defending them even as a libertarian myself.