Clarifying my stance on women's rights:
Negotiable:
Property rights
Working (with their man's permission)
Abortion (This is a tough one)
Arranged marraige
Non-negotiable:
Voting
Holding political office, press
College
Passports
Did I miss anything?
@basedbagel as for work and education, I'd advocate that they should be allowed to do both.
but with college, they are only allowed to go to women only colleges, and discouraged from attaining higher education (they have to meet a much higher standard). Though, honestly, most people shouldn't be going to college.
Academia should be reserved for those who think objectively.
Also when women go to school they think they are better than men who don't and then they don't have kids. And then we're back at square 1.
Can small minority of women handle it? Yes, but it's not worth risking demographic collapse IMO
@basedbagel that's why it should be discouraged. made difficult to accomplish and have high standards for doing so.
Academia should be reserved for those who are qualified, which most people, men or women, are not. the problem is lax standards and the government guaranteeing college for all.
most people should not be attending college. if a woman can pay her own way and has enough merit, then she should be allowed.
There is no female-dominated profession that is essential to society functioning.
Nurses are just doctor's assistants and they only do it so they can marry doctors.
@basedbagel I mean, most professions are not essential to society functioning. many make it function smoother, but we could go back to the dark ages easy and have a functioning society.
Most people, men included, should not be going to college.
the idea is to stop welfare and have everyone pay their own way and acheive by the sweat of their brow.
if you block the few hardworking women from this, they become spearheads for women's rights.
Not true.
You NEED police officers, soldiers, skilled tradesmen or society grinds to a SCREECHING HALT.
I agree most people shouldn't be in college.
A hardworking woman is an oxymoron. Maybe back in the day but in modern times, no way!
@basedbagel
1) a screeching halt is still functioning. it's not collapsing
2) you just need a military and farmers for a society to function. we just need technological advancement because we need to compete with others, but even that's not necessarily true. look at afganistan, takes out tanks with sticks and rocks.
and the idea is to return to "back in the day"
We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
When dealing with women,children it's best if rules lack nuance as their brains do.
If you let women in college then they will stop having kids and use the authority of academia to let all women in and you're finished.
Your point makes sense logically, but we are not dealing with logical creatures.
@basedbagel
except there's no reason for them to have authority of academia. they go to women only college and are limited in subject matters, so they are never part of academia, just part of specific fields like nursing.
they have to prove themselves and pay their own way, so relatively few would even make it.
the reason so many people go to college now is because of retards voting for college to be a right.
Sorry @khaosklub but that won't work.
We NEED women to have babies, this is non-negotiable.
If you send women to school, they have no babies and our society goes extinct.
I understand it isn't fair, but we shouldn't all go extinct so that a small # of women can go to school.
@basedbagel
yes, we need women to have babies. no one is saying send all women to college, we're talking a very small percentage, to where we'd have like maybe 10 national women's colleges in the country.
I don't disagree in principle, but I think it sets a dangerous precedent with devastating consequences.
Maybe just online school AFTER you have a kid and aren't on welfare.
@basedbagel after having kids is an excellent requirement. or maybe only once they're 30. gives them time to have some kids, and they can attend once they hit the wall.
though, really, welfare needs to be abolished period, no negotiation.
Well said. I agree with that 100%
Big Government is a direct cause of female empowerment. They have a BIOLOGICAL imperative to be taken care of.
Your views make sense in principle. The problem is women don't understand/care about principle and they degrade the quality of any institution they inhabit.
This is pure survival, If you send a critical mass of women to school, kiss your birthrate goodbye.
@basedbagel big government is a direct result of female voting. if women cannot vote, then it doesn't matter.
and again, it'd be minimal women only in fields approved for women
We tried that, the women will just cry segregation and play the victim to get in boys schools.
Then they will distract the men, degrade the intuition and not have kids and we're SCREWED!
@basedbagel if women crying is enough, then your whole plan falls apart anyway. if you take away women's votes, then that's all there is to it
I disagree. Women can cry all they want but if men just SAY NO than we're all good.😎
Taking the vote is just the 1st step so we can fix everything.
Our birthrates are DOGSHIT because women are in college, frolicking around the world wasting time.
@basedbagel
you just disagreed with yourself. you say that women will cry to get in boys' schools, but then men can just say no.
our birthrates are dogshit because women don't need men. why don't women need men? because of college? no. it's because of wellfare. so many women are in college also because of wellfare.
without wellfare, women couldn't afford to go to college, and even if they did, they couldn't support themselves afterwards.
I didn't disagree with myself.
There are more than 1 cause for a problem.
Welfare is the biggest problem but it's not the only one. Women being able to go to college and provide for themselves without a man WILL NOT GET MARRIED OR HAVE KIDS.
Then we are fucked because someone will have to take care of these women when they get older.
Women lack the foresight/fiscal responsibility for long term thinking like retirement.
@basedbagel
women voting is the only real problem. this leads to welfare, welfare leads to all the problems.
most women cannot provide for themselves, even with college. they are heavily supported by welfare. welfare also gives them a free ride to go to college. without welfare, very few women will be able to attend college. very vew women will not get married or have kids.
and no, no one has to take care of them, that's called welfare, and charities can take care of that anyway.
You say voting is the only problem, but I say it's just the tip of the iceberg.
NO WOMAN can provide for himself without indirect/direct support from a man. Live with a woman and you will quickly find this out.
They can't maintain things like cars/houses alone when they are older and will cry for someone to take care of them.
Women MUST be taken care of. This is the way the world is.
@basedbagel
no, I'd say it's the base of the iceberg, and everything above water, that you see, is a consequence of women voting.
women voting is the source of every problem you've touched on. if women were never able to vote, they'd never have been issues.
and a few women who go to college won't be able to take care of themselves in old age? what about barren women? who will take care of them?
there's plenty of charities for that kind of thing. most women will be married with kids.
The exception proves the rule. Just because a few autistic lesbians can go to college does not justify the risk of opening the floodgates to demographic collapse.
What do you think will happen when women see other women living freely w/o a man while they are dependent.
Your ideas are sound but fail to take human nature into account.
Idk what a barren woman is but I agrees churches and charities can take care of the outliers.
With patriarchy you have strong communities which can handle this sort of thing.
@basedbagel
barren women are women who for whatever reason cannot have children.
i see barren women the same way women see incels, not my problem.
But in all seriousness, they have options as well.
1. Become a Nun
2.Find a man who wants a woman but not the kids.
TBH I already 80% agree with you as long as you don't think women should vote. We can work out the details later.
women tend to outlive men, so even if she finds a man, she'll probably outlive him, and then needs someone to take care of her in her old age.
ponit is, they provide the same "needs someone to take care of them" issue that the few women that go to college would have, and they'd be slightly less common.
That's not true. We have a solution for that already, it's called life insurance.
@basedbagel
"NO WOMAN can provide for himself without indirect/direct support from a man. Live with a woman and you will quickly find this out.
They can't maintain things like cars/houses alone when they are older and will cry for someone to take care of them.
Women MUST be taken care of. This is the way the world is."
the point is to address this, and life insurance doesn't provide a man.
I don't see how what I said doesn't apply. Seems simple to me:
1. Man marries woman.
2. Man takes care of woman.
3. Man gets life insurance policy to pay other men to take care of her/children in his absence.
Man still supports her indirectly so my point still stands.
NO WOMAN can provide for himself without indirect/direct support from a man.
I know its hard to accept but that is just nature.
@basedbagel
"Then we are fucked because someone will have to take care of these women when they get older.
Women lack the foresight/fiscal responsibility for long term thinking like retirement."
so, why wouldn't they blow that life insurance money right away?
This is where you and me differ.
I don't actually give a shit about the welfare of unlucky, low iq women. I was just giving you an example of something that works to prove my point
If she wants to blow through her money and starve to death, that's her prerogative.
However, there are systems you can put in place like trusts to protect from that. But that's her mans problem, not mine. 🤷♂️
@basedbagel
But then women can also be limited on subjects they can attend college for. so an all women's college with women's career fields, like nursing or medicine.