How sad it is that a basic concept like evolution is still so heatedly debated in current year, when people in Ancient Greece already grasped it?

Abrahamic religions really are the worst thing that ever happened to mankind.

@Based_Accelerationist

Answers in Genesis basically admits evolution happens but refuse to call it evolution

They insist on calling it natural selection and artificial selection instead

And these are the "extremist" young earth creationists

Basically almost everyone believes evolution is happening right now even Christians

The debate is if humanity came into existence through a specific list of previous species in a specific order on a specific timeline through a big bang

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In my opinion there is no evidence for the big bang nor evidence for the evolutionary timeline and missing links

But there is evidence that life forms experience natural selection in the present to change the frequency of their genetic expressions as a population

This can be done by growing plant crops with artificial selection or putting bacteria or microscopic life forms under different criteria in a culture in the lab

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@Based_Accelerationist

Although I think there is zero evidence for a big bang billions of years ago there is also zero evidence for a young earth creation story 6000 years ago

I do not think science is meant to determine ancient history that far back

Science is meant for making decisions in the present using models

@shortstories Well, there is some evidence of a "big bang", as space is constantly expanding (which suggests that it has one or multiple origins) and there is the constant background radiation seems to originate from such an event. Doesn't mean it's the origin of everything, nor does it answer all that many questions, but it seems probable that something like that happened.

But yes, evolution is much easier to observe and prove.

@Based_Accelerationist

Red shift does not prove space expansion

Claim - the light frequency decreases and the wave length increases as the source of the light and the observer of the light move away from each other at positive speed proving stars move away from us

The alleged red shift can be caused by multiple factors

Light tends to red shift by greater and greater amounts the farther it travels through a medium

Space is not a empty vacuum with zero density but a low density medium

@Based_Accelerationist

Red shift is a increase in wavelength and decrease in frequency

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conspiracyoflight.com/Cosmolog

There are plenty of scientists who are not young earth creationists who reject the big bang & believe in the possibility of a eternal universe

There is religious bias to reject looking at this possibility

Some Young Earth Creationists like to believe the Big Bang proves god created the universe a finite amount of time ago and then claim the time was dilated / constricted and was thousand of years ago from some way of measuring it but not others

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