@white_male @ButtWorldsMan there is no such thing as "the common good" or "the will of the people". There are only groups of people with their own self interest, some of which have more power and influence than others.
The state is a mechanism for the powerful to take from the less powerful. This can be a oligarchy of the rich preying on the poor, or a democracy of the poor preying on the rich.
Being in the 99% within a dictatorship is no better than being in the 49% within a democracy.
@white_male @ButtWorldsMan no, it's not "good enough for the common good" just because it benefits 51% of people. This is why democracies fail. The 51% learn they can prey on the 49% and it ends in war and collapse.
Also, although I don't know your politics, based on your name you're probably pro white people, but according to polls, white nationalists are a minority, thus the "will of the people" has triumphed, and you lose.
See how this works?
@white_male @ButtWorldsMan nobody's self interest is morally superior to anyone else's self interest, and everything ultimately boils down to power.
When we can't sit down and talk and decide who's right, we kill each other to decide who's left.
@Tfmonkey There are 3 endings in Deus Ex. Join the illuminati and guide the world among them, destroy technology that's interconnected through the illuminati's central network (cut off surveillance), or merge with the AI that's connected to all the world's surveillance networks.
Each ending has a philosophical quote associated with it. Here's the one for the AI ending.
@ButtWorldsMan why can't the people who want to be taken care of by the government be allowed to do so while not involving everyone else who wants to be left alone?
Obviously some people want/need to be taken care of and are willing to give up their freedom, and they should be allowed to do so.
I don't want to "force" freedom on anyone, but I don't want them to force their system on me either.
@Tfmonkey probably because it's human nature to want to increase one's territorial dominance while fearing the "other." It seems that as a "community" becomes more prosperous, it expands. The more it expands, the more they want to dominate what's around them. Those who refuse to become a part of the "hive" are the other. Can they be trusted? They are also an obstruction to the hive's dominance & expansion.
I'm simply reminded of the American colonial idea of "manifest destiny." It is what it is
@Tfmonkey thinking about it, your ideal world is one that's basically where people are capable of embracing a live & let live mentality. But the problem is that the hives of sheep don't have that mentality.
Ultimately, your ideal world is only possible the same way a functional, sustainable, communist society is possible: by rewriting human nature.
Humans clearly are both individualistic & collectivistic. Hence why most people are sheep. So generally, live & let live is not in our nature.
@Tfmonkey @ButtWorldsMan Because those people that wants to take care by the Goverment More than 90% are woman but The Goverment cannot provide resources by itself to these mostly woman and need to steal from The nearest productive Male population.
Fun fact The North Korean Regimen Good boosted by the action of their version of secret Police that were a bunch of KARENS.
@ButtWorldsMan if you free most people, and they cannot find a replacement slavemaster, they will create one for themselves.