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@Tfmonkey as far as the negro stench comment goes, yes, diet does affect your BO, but so does your skins microbiome, your metabolism, and any weird issues with it, and of course, GENES.....Genetics definitely play a role in different groups of people having unique and identifiable stenches, and perhaps we just smell it cause it is different than the BO of people we are used to being around. Many athletes have commented that there is a distinct NIG FUNK after blacks leave the locker room.

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@Tfmonkey your genes, and skin type, and even the color of your skin will also affect what kind of microbes your skin favors and which microbes your skin is averse to. Pheromones and HLA would also be genetically influenced.

@Tfmonkey its not that TFM is completely wrong in laughing at stubborn biological determinists, but he is being just as bad as them, from the other side.... Nature and Nurture shape our development, to only focus on one at the expense of the other is stupid, regardless if you are saying genes don't matter at all, or that genetics are everything....both are wrong....like most things, it is a delicate, complex, yet elegant and nuanced balance between systems.

@Tfmonkey also, the food you eat will feed and favor specific microbes, if i give my dog a high carb meal, or something with sugar, he smells like cornchips and nutritional yeast for hours after because the elevated sugar levels in his blood feed yeast on his skin.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey

Typical black diet when given their own choice of food and unlimited funds for foods is extremely unhealthy compared to typical diet of many other people groups due to typical black culture

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey

@shortstories took the words right out of my mouth!

Same goes for Indians as well. It's nothing about being Indian that makes you smell it's your diet

I used to have farts so toxic that I've made grown men tear up!

I changed my diet and it all went away.

@basedbagel @PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey

It is probably the interaction between diet and genetics and hygiene habits

There are some people with food allergies

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories Wrong, their indian genetics and cultural practices, including diet, both influence the BO, to what degree each factor does, well, lets have that discussion, but you aren't gonna sit here and deny biological reality like TFM and get away with it.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

Your diet is DIRECTLY linked to how you smell.

Don't believe me? Try it for yourself.

Eat an indian diet and live in a similar climate and you will smell JUST as bad.

>deny biological reality like TFM

i'm not denying anything I'm stating facts. Your diet>>>>>>genetics when it comes to how you smell.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

>strawman

No its not you just haven't traveled anywhere.

There is NO evidence to support that your genes make you smell.

There is PLENTY of evidence that your diet/climate effects your body odor.

You're just married to this idea of racial superiority that you're letting it get in the way of the obvious solution just like south did in the civil war.

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories
never said anything about racial superiority, holy shit, if anything, The Ashkenazi Jews are clearly the superior race.
you mean the north?
I have traveled places, but i don't need to go further than 10 miles from the city center to find a virtually ethnic homogenous kibbutz of muslims or blacks.

you should change your name to Burned Bagel.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

>you should change your name to Burned Bagel.

Of course I don't align with you 100% on your views therefore I must be non-white. Splendid analysis

Never mind that MAJORITY of a mostly white society has disenfranchised you to the point where the only way you can make safely state your views is on the asshole of the internet.

The reason why I said you haven't traveled is that if you notice when your diet/climate changes your BO does as well.

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories holy fucking shit, now you are being deliberately obtuse.....you haven't heard the phrase "Ooooh! He just got BUUURRRNNEED!" as in a good roasting (By someone else, or the person themselves in front of other) think of it like slipping on a banana peel on your first day of HS, but with flawed, crappy logic and argument skills in a discussion or debate.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

>flawed, crappy logic and argument skills

I didn't see it as an argument at all which is why I said it's tiresome.

You said there was a genetic component in people's body odor.

I simply stated there's more evidence that it's your diet/climate you live in that affects it.

Didn't seem like much of a contentious topic to me lol

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories pretty sure you said it was diet at the exclusion of everything else....

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

>pretty sure you said it was diet at the exclusion of everything else

I couldn't be bothered to scroll back up but If I did say that then I retract that as some people definitely have a genetic proclivity to smell worst for reasons I will never get. Source: UNI

I'm fresh off debating salty southerners which is why race was 1st to come to mind.

It was really annoying having my race questioned when all I did was quote basic civil war history.

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories

yes, geography too, nothing beats SF Sourdough, they have the best natural airborne yeast for it.

I don't trust you or TFM in matters pertaining to the nuances of biology. pretty good with surface level stuff, but beyond that, he makes a lot of erroneous statements. I will look into it, decide for myself, and return with my verdict. We can have a discussion later about which factor is MORE important.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

>I don't trust you or TFM in matters pertaining to the nuances of biology.

Good, we're not experts on the matter and even if we were trusting pastries or chimps online is in general not a smart idea.

>I will look into it, decide for myself, and return with my verdict.

That's the ideal course of action TBH.

>We can have a discussion later about which factor is MORE important

No thanks! No offense but just I don't care that much about the topic.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

> 20 replies later.....

I hear this alot and I never understood this logic.

I have mastodon on my phone and It takes me seconds to reply to you in my downtime.

If you see me active on here I'm not always invested in the topic it means I'm just bored wherever I'm at lol.

@basedbagel i blame white women and jews for this. and those two groups changing society over time in such a way that it lead to the creation of more and more weak male feminist allies. Also, those dumb cucks in wyoming....seriously...fuck those cuck simps right to hell.

@PordanJeterson

>i blame white women and jews for this.

i disagree, I blame whoever the wise guys were that voted to give women voting rights.

>Also, those dumb cucks in wyoming

Have some compassion, dry dick in the middle of nowhere can make you think of some crazy shit lol

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories I wasn't making an argument about which factor was MOST important....just that diet wasn't the only factor, as TFM and you appear to have suggested.

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories

pretty damn sure its a strawman.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey @shortstories

> Quotes him verbatim and responds with a logical point.

> Says I'm strawmannig him

This is so tiresome.

@basedbagel @Tfmonkey @shortstories Tiresome indeed, ive already explained exactly how you committed an egregious straw man. its in your notifications somewhere, look for it. im not wasting my breath again.

@PordanJeterson athletes don't eat the same food, but in the military, every eats the same food and black people don't smell bad. In the Navy, they pack people into the berthing spaces and people sleep very close to each other.

There were stinky motherfuckers, but that was because they didn't shower or they worked in engineering, not because of race.

Your microbiome and metabolism are directly affected by your diet.

It's all the spice and fried food.

@Tfmonkey @PordanJeterson or they just get too fat to wash all around themselves

@Tfmonkey its called sensory adaption TFM, if you are constantly around something, your psyche just filters it out, if you were an athlete or soldier in an all white military unit, and then transferred into a black unit, you might notice said nig funk for a while, another possibility is that you are part nigger, and it just doesn't smell foreign to you, you have admitted you grew up in the projects, idk man. Sus.

@PordanJeterson @Tfmonkey

If there is zero genetic influence on body odor than dogs could not track people if theychanged their diet

Then women and men would smell the same with the same diet, exercise, sleep and hygiene practices

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