I see alot of people saying that women win in the short term but lose in the long term.
This is just not true. I know PLENTY of women 30-45 who finesse men and are still living the dream.
@basedbagel Finally, someone said it.
There are women in their 50's and beyond who still can win sex, relationships and well paying, cushy jobs. They can still manipulate men with expert level strategy and tactics. They do this better than MOST men in their Prime years.
Thank you! @sardonicsmile someone who actually goes outside.
All these bitches crying online are just crying for attention.
i hate to admit it but women NEVER lose.
I know a girl who ran up 150K+ in student loans and paid it off via hoeing. She now lives better than me who finished UNI...
The ONLY time women "lose" is if they wait too long to have a kid. In which case they can just adopt one.
Society is setup for women to never lose. Because if the do we go extinct.
@basedbagel @sardonicsmile do you think that this girl you know who ran a $150k debt will win ij the end when she is in her 50s, sure she might be better off now cuz she whored herself in her 20s 30s and maybe if she has the good genes in her 40s too but how long do you think that will last? These women never leave well enough alone, they are always looking to break it for something better.
Depends on how you define winning.
She works half as much as me and makes more $$ so in my eyes she's winning.
I know women 35-50 who still have men chasing them. The wall is a myth as long as you dont want kids.
The default state of a woman is miserable, so she'll never be "happy".
But she will ALWAYS be taken care of.
@basedbagel @sardonicsmile look, what you are basically telling me is that as long as women stay single and attractive they can easily win at life, I completely agree with you on that, but even the girls with the best genes that stay attractive in their 40s, maybe even early 50s they eventually loose at regret not having a family to look after them. And again the women who remain attractive in the 40s and win at life like you say, they are very very few, they are definitely not the norm
It seems like you're projecting masculine values onto women
Women don't care about things like family. They don't do well with long term thinking.
They care about having fun, getting attention and maybe children
Women don't need to do ANYTHING to get male attention.
They have all the welfare and there are more than enough men to go around.
It's impossible for a woman to be in the West and fail at life.
@basedbagel @sardonicsmile I completely agree with you, women dont care about having families and generally dont have the ability to plan ahead for long term problems, but that does not mean they win at life because they had it good and easy in the here and now. You say that it is imposible for a womam to fail in life in todays age but some how they are making all the "poor" choices that lead directly to that.
@37712 @sardonicsmile Again you're projecting masculine standards on to a woman.
I define winning as doing what you want, when you want, with who you want.
Women have everything they desire and while there is less when they get older the wall is a myth.
@basedbagel @sardonicsmile then the problem is that we have different standard/definition with what winning at life means. I dont considere winning in the here and now and winning at life, I considere winning most if the time in your life, specially in your old age when you need it the most as winning at life. Hell, to me leaving decendants who will have your culture and values is in some ways winning at life.
No the problem is you don't understand how women think.
You cant define winning by adult standards and apply it to a child.
It doesn't work that way.
Check with the older women in your life, I think you'll be shocked at how well they're doing.
"You cant define winning by adult standards and apply it to a child"
yes you can, even a child knows when they are lousing and they tend to through a temper tantrum for it.
"Check with the older women in your life, I think you'll be shocked at how well they're doing"
I look around in my life and at my work and single women are doing meh at best for the old generation, and for the new generation of women it is not good. they are lonely, on anti depressants and sad.
@37712 @basedbagel @sardonicsmile The wall is real as Rollo stated it’s not just biological but also psychological. A woman in her 30s and 40s that’s still reasonably attractive and takes care of herself, will still get dick and attention but she will not even come close to outcompeting her younger 18-25 year old self. Her 18-25 year old self would run circles around her in the open sexual marketplace. Also the quality men she can attract goes exponentially down, so she has to settle or be alone
I could noy agree more with you
I am not sure what kind of depression @basedbagel is going through right now that he thinks women are winning at life, I have never in my life seen a group of ppl more empty and sad than the modern women. @basedbagel thinks that we are making it up that women are lousing, I guess he does not understand where the term left over women comes from.
@sardonicsmile not sure if you still even what to be in this conversation
@37712 @I_AmTheKnight @basedbagel Perhaps "winning at life" is an overstatement. Nevertheless, broadly speaking, he is correct. This system is designed to transfer money, wealth, protection, and power from men to women. The zeitgeist itself admonishes anything that prevents or anyone who even speaks about the injustice of this. Even *talking* about this is considered "counterculture". Women, regardless of age have it infinitely easier and have more options than MOST men, in our Prime.
@sardonicsmile Now this I agree more with, yes the system is against men, yes women have it on easy mode, we all agree with that, but women winning at life, no noy really.
@basedbagel equates having your way in the here and now as winning at life, as if being first place at the beggining of a race somehow means that you win the race, and I say NO, who ever crosses the finish line first wins the race.
@37712 @sardonicsmile @basedbagel I forgot to mention, that there’s a Morgan Stanley study called The She Economy which states that by 2030 45% of women between the ages of 25-44 will be single and childless, and the reason for their research is to determine what to invest in since women purchase 85% of consumer goods, and it’s projected that wine and chocolate consumption will increase exceptionally by that time. Women do have it easier than men objectively but hard times are coming for them.
Good stats but if you think hard times are coming for women that's never gonna happen.
Take Ukraine for example. All the men are dying left and right for a losing war.
The women? Just finding another man in a different country to sleep with.
Hard times are only coming for men.
@basedbagel @37712 @sardonicsmile The term “who is winning” that can be subjective depending on how you see things, but I will say women’s power over society now will definitely diminish when things go to shit. The gynocentric social order is going to come to an end, especially when all the weak men/simps die when there’s hyperinflation and bankrupt welfare states everywhere among the western world. Nature is the one that wins in the end and gets the last laugh.
@I_AmTheKnight @37712 @sardonicsmile
This is just doomsday porn.
Just because the gynocentric social order collapses doesn't mean women won't be taken care of.
In every war/hard time in history men bear the brunt of it.
Women are physicallly/psychologically incapable of enduring hardship. So if women ever suffer for real we GO EXTINCT.
So barring extinction, women will always be taken care of. This is the way of the world
@basedbagel @I_AmTheKnight @sardonicsmile I still dont see how that equates to women winning in life, or being able to always do what ever they want. I if hard times come, men get culled and women get raped, yes it sucks more for men but that does not meam that womem are winning.