The wall is a myth. Any woman can get married at any age she pleases.
@basedbagel again with this stupid bullshit nonsense, dud you just sound like a black pill crybaby now. Sorry but I dont see women as winning at all, you dont get ti say that you win yhe race of life just because you had a good start, the end od the race matters just as much if not more, and modern women in general are just not winning. I personally just witnessed a women at my place of work who was so desperate that litteraly married a guy she just met, 1/2
@37712 I know it sounds black pill but a broken clock is right twice a day.
Women are getting more degrees than men, buying more homes than men and have the entire government apparatus at their disposal.
Red pillers say that women >30 are undesirable. This is not true.
You forget 95% of the world is blue pill and they will gladly risk it all just for a woman's validation.
@basedbagel @37712 >Red pillers say that women >30 are undesirable.
There needs to be some clarification here. It is not so much that a woman becomes completely unable to find relationships/husband's after 30, but her options get more and more limited after she is 30 and the become more limited as she gets older. She will most likely not get the ideal man she wants after 30 (unlike in her early 20s).
Also, this assumes that a woman is taking the best care of herself after 30, and many do not.
@basedbagel @37712 Let us also not forget how women have inflated expectations based on their dating/sleeping around in their 20s. They often think that the kind of men who would be willing to sleep with them or short term date them are the kind of man she should be able to get past 30. But often that is not the case.
For women who do "settle" for a guy who she would previously overlook in her 20s, they often resent the guy who they end up with, even though he did nothing wrong.
@houseoftolstoy @basedbagel @37712 One "shock jock" radio guy called 30 the "expiration date". That's cruel, and it's not that sudden. But I've known many women who commented on the whiplash in dating as they progress into their 30's.
It doesn't help that a lot of the things guys found cute in a 22YO are not a good look at all in a 30+ woman.
@vandys @houseoftolstoy @basedbagel lol I know what you mean guys will out up with a lit of bull when a girl is in their early 20s but they keep that same attitude well in ti their 30s and then complain that men aren't worth shit cuz they wont date them or commit to them.
@37712 @vandys @houseoftolstoy
I agree but I would like to clarify that what you said only applies to men with a backbone.
Most western men have NO self respect and will put up with anything a woman throws at them.
They see it as a sign of masculinity to suffer with a lousy bitch.
@basedbagel @37712 @houseoftolstoy
Sure, poor self esteem is a great way to achieve poor results.
Another thing I keep hearing about is guys whose desires are shaped by very hard porn. They break out these moves IRL and the results are... poor.
I see what you're saying @houseoftolstoy @37712
but IMO dating coaches WAY over-exaggerate the limited options.
From what I see women's options just age up with them as do mens.
Dating coaches fool guys into thinking 50+ y/o men get 25 y/o pussy just for making $$ when that's not really the case outside of famous people.
Also remember 95% of guys are blue pill and don't understand their value so it fucks up the market.
"women have inflated expectations based on their dating/sleeping around in their 20"
This is true.
In my anecdotal experience they tend to adjust to reality when they realize this.
"they often resent the guy who they end up with, even though he did nothing wrong."
Spot on! My only defense to that is due to women's hypergamous nature this will be the case no matter who they end up with.
It's not their fault that God made them such sad miserable creatures
@houseoftolstoy
Dang, you hit the nail straight in the head.
At the end women are their worst enemies and always end uo destroing their own happynes
@basedbagel