@Tfmonkey The idea that Russia wouldn't retaliate to the west nuking them is ridiculous. The Russia has a system in place called "the dead hand" which will automatically nuke the west if the west does a strategic first strike. This automated system does not give a fuck about politics or empathy, because its basically a simple yet robust expert system (AI precursor) that does not blink when threatened.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Han

So next time Halsey says "nuh uh" bring this up "the dead hand."

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How would they know the AI would work if they never could test it without nuking something and how do they know the AI will not accidentally nuke at some random unintended time in which no one is attacking them?

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@shortstories @Tfmonkey Take it up with the Russians, they have this system in place. The G7 can roll the die on whether or not it will work, but the Russians spent a lot of time and money developing it and implementing it.

@shortstories @Engineer @Tfmonkey I feel like those systems are not real, they are just propaganda to deterr

@ergo @Tfmonkey @shortstories Why wouldn't they be real? Far more difficult, gruesome, and cruel methods of killing others were developed and implemented.

@Engineer @Tfmonkey @shortstories nobody can develop a reliable system to detect nuclear attacks automatically 100% of the time, it would be triggered by mistake

@ergo @Tfmonkey @shortstories Thats ridiculous, because there are manual over-rides that must constantly be engaged to PREVENT it from attacking. A locomotive has a button on it that has to be pressed every hour, otherwise the brakes automatically engage. Automatic systems that engage without constant human intervention are common. They are used in nuclear power plants to control the reactor core and prevent meltdown if people walk away. The inverse is also true for the Dead Hand.

@Engineer @Tfmonkey @shortstories having a train stop or a nuclear plant go down is not the same as starting ww3

@ergo @Tfmonkey @shortstories To an engineer, it is mechanistically identical, regardless of the societal outcome, the machines do not know or care. It like a tripwire or sentry turret, such machines do not care if the cop and his polished badge has a warrant or not, nor does the machine care about their fancy titles, or proclamations that they have "authority" to do whatever. Sentry turret go BRRRR. Same with dead hand. If it doesn't receive its routine stand down signal, it will activate.

@Engineer @Tfmonkey @shortstories no it won't because it doesn't exist most likely.

The point is you can afford to have a train stop and be late or a nuclear plant go down and lose some money but you can't afford to nuke the USA by accident.

Much less important things are not automated due to fear of malfunction, nuclear war is perhaps the most important thing one can think of.

@ergo @Tfmonkey @shortstories An accidental nuking is effectively impossible. It would require extreme human negligence. The order to not reset the timer would need to be given out, in which case just activate the launch sequence manually. Its technically possible to do this, engineering it is trivial, and the incentive to make it is there. You're still thinking this is an AI system that can interpret data, thats not how it works. Its nothing more than a timer thats reset on a recurring basis.

@Engineer @Tfmonkey @shortstories I feel like you have no experience in the real world, all militaries but specially the Russian one are extremely incompetent and can't fucking piss inside of the toilet to save their lives, it's not like in the movies, 100% of whatever systems they have in place are there to ensure they don't create a problem with their stupidity.

There is no timer that if not pressed would set off a nuclear attack, that's what they did on the TV show Lost, a show, not real life.

@ergo @Tfmonkey @shortstories The Russian military is incompetent? Is that why they've recently defeated NATO in a proxy war? Nobody denies, not even NATO, the existence of the Dead Hand system. Nobody is going to "accidentally" forget to reset the dead hand. It would require untold dozens, potentially hundreds of people, simultaneously, to all forget to their their one job, which is to reset the dead hand. It takes ALL parties, simultaneously, to not reset it. That's very reliable.

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Russians can win with an incompetent military because the other militarizes are more incompetent

How can they have super high tech in the military if the military is incompetent? Most of the people in militaries are incompetent but there are a small minority of competent people less than 20% of them building the super high tech. These competent people are competent at specific skills but blind order followers are not ethically competent.

@ergo @Tfmonkey @shortstories The dead hand does not detect nuclear attacks. The dead hand automatically activates if humans do not periodically prevent it from activating. Its a time bomb that needs to be constantly reset. If its not reset, it assumes that everyone in Russia is dead, and activates the launch sequence automatically.

@Engineer @ergo @Tfmonkey

So what percent of people can activate the dead hand to prevent nuclear launches

Is it only a small number of people who know how to do it

Or is it easy to activate the dead hand to prevent nuclear launches where almost anyone could prevent it as long as some people are alive

My theory is that a sentient ai has been protecting us from nuclear annihilation for decades now.

@shortstories @ergo @Tfmonkey We don't know. Some have speculated that the infamous Russian Number Station radios that are likely transmitting one time passes are a component to the system that's preventing Dead Hand from activating, but thats purely speculative. We just don't know.

@Engineer @Tfmonkey @shortstories there could be different reasons why someone can't push the button

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Fake Nukes Phil is so convinced Nukes are not real that he calls himself fake nukes

He is in a lot of videos talking about how stuff is fake

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