TFM claims:
"If you believe Jews are the sole cause of Western problems, explain Rome. Their decline happened centuries later with no Jewish involvement."
Jews claim:
"They created Christianity to conquer the goy, Paul was a double agent, they destroyed Esau through Christianity, St. Peter was a rabbi who infiltrated Christianity to aid the Jews, etc."
Who do you believe?
Same video but w/ better audio: https://x.com/i/status/1888641300305523018
Different clip: https://x.com/i/status/1816724361472283006
@VooDooMedic @Tfmonkey Indeed.
There's a reason why this group went from being defeated and almost exterminated, to owning all the world leaders (Putin included). That reason is Christianity, the Jews got their golems.
Btw, you'd think having an Orthodox Jew as a cohost would help in these matters, as all the rabbis in these videos are highly influential and I'm sure Halsey has heard about them, maybe even met them in Israel, but apparently this is all news to him.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey feigning ignorance when being caught red handed sounds like a Jew to me
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
Self identifying Jews who do not consider themselves Christians have told me that Jesus is not the Messiah because he failed to defeat Rome
But now I am told by based accelerationist Jesus is a made up story used to defeat Rome
Orthodox "Jews" certainly tell each other Jesus was real in their writings where they say he was a very bad man and is in burning excrement or semen
Where in their writing does it say we made up Jesus to trick the Goyim?
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
First I think because of belief in Jesus whether or not Jesus existed the Roman Government was defeated and replaced by a combination of Churches and multiple governments
Second it was defeated over many centuries without violence
Third I think it's defeat was a good thing because in the long run it led to competing government and competing religious systems
Fourth I am anti-clerical and hope for the Roman Clerical system to be defeated further
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
My desired end goal would be for people to no longer believe that clergy have special authority to let people know what is morally right and wrong and to no longer believe that they have a moral obligation to obey clergy simply because they are clergy
When I say clergy I do not limit this to "Christian" Clergy only
And I would say the same for people in government or corporate office positions as I said for clergy but with word substituition
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
So based accelerationists posts a video quoting people more than a thousand years after Jesus alleged executuon to try to prove his point that Christianity was a Jewish psy op
But do they quote the Babylonian or Palestinian Talmud or earlier documents saying anything to prove this point
Because it seems to me that the earlier sources from Jews claim that that Jesus a real historic figure that was their enemy instead of their psyop tool
@shortstories @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
If you watched the video, then you would know they didn't say Jesus didn't exist, they said Paul was a double agent, who made up the magic tricks and the myth surrounding Jesus (who they believe was a regular Jew, not the messiah) to prevent Christianity from infiltrating Judaism in Israel and instead go convert the goyim, as Jesus supposedly wanted.
It's that simple.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
What is the earliest Jewish written source to confirm that Jews taught that,
"Paul was a double agent, who made up the magic tricks and the myth surrounding Jesus (who they believe was a regular Jew, not the messiah) to prevent Christianity from infiltrating Judaism in Israel and instead go convert the goyim, as Jesus supposedly wanted."
Maimonides is after 1100 AD
These people on the video were filmed after 1900 AD
Source before 700 AD ?
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
If the Talmud was finished in the 6th century AD then it was finished before 700 AD
So I would like to see a quote from 700AD or earlier from Jews that Christianity or the story of Jesus was a PsyOp created by "Jews" to influence Goyim to become Noahides or whatever based accelerationist is claiming the goal of this Jewish PsyOp was
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=when+was+the+talmud+finished&ia=web
@shortstories @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic Are you for real? Look, if you don't believe the takes of the top influential rabbis on Judaism, that's fine. The point of this is to show what rabbis teach, this is what they preach in Israel.
Some of these rabbis also have youtube channels, you can send them money and ask for their pre-700 AD sources, if you're so inclined.
But there is no denying that Christianity is 100% Jewish and that Jesus did not perform any magic tricks, if he even existed at all.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
Maybe their most recent take of the top Jewish Rabbis in the 20th and 21st century is that Christianity was a Jewish PsyOp but I am not convinced that Jews who were not Christian who were alive before 700 AD viewed Christianity as a Psyop created by Jews
Rabbis have a long track record of creating new stuff on the fly and claiming it was what they taught all along since ancient times
Clergy who call themselves Christian also do that
@shortstories @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic According to these rabbis, most Jews didn't think Christianity was a psyop, it was simply a competitor to the mainstream form of Judaism at the time, with an army and everything. They were converting Jews in Israel to their side and the elites saw it as a threat. Only Paul, Peter and a few other top rabbis, knew about their plan to lead the Christians away from Israel and to turn the whole movement into a psyop for the goy.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
"According to these rabbis, most Jews didn't think Christianity was a psyop"
"Only Paul, Peter and a few other top rabbis, knew about their plan to lead the Christians away from Israel and to turn the whole movement into a psyop for the goy."
So basically more than one thousand years later some Rabbis speculated that Christianity was originally created by other Jews as a PsyOp
But this is only their unproven guess about history
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
I will give you that most modern Christian denominations are PsyOps by Jews who are not Christian and their greedy for money and greedy for power partners
But I do not think you have made a good case that it started out that way
You might indeed be correct about how and why it started but you have not convinced me you are correct beyond a reasonable doubt
@shortstories @Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey
christianity is a white sand nigger off shoot of judaism and islam is the sand niggers copying judaism all 3 fall under abrahamic faiths and should all my cast out as the traitors and deceivers of the White race
@shortstories @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic If the church leaders dress like Jews, if the books they deem holy include the Torah, if they see Israel as their holy land, then they are a Jewish psyop and started out as such. If all modern Christian denominations do this, all of them are psyops, including the Russian Orthodox church, which actively defends and submits to Jews.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
The question is were they subverted or were they a psyop to begin with
But it would be very difficult for me to meet the academic requirements for a history paper with proper citations and get a A grade with the claim that I know 100% for sure that Christianity started out as a Psychological Operation By Paul & friends to convince Gentiles to become Noahides and that Paul & "eye witness" friends did not sincerely believe Jesus rose from the dead
@shortstories @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic You're right about that. We probably will never know for sure, but I don't think it matters much at this point.
Christianity cannot be reformed, Germany tried with better men and look what happened.
Gentiles will have to let go entirely of abrahamic religion, if we are to escape the psyop.
But thanks to Trump, Putin, Alex Jones and the rest of the controlled opposition, it's not going to happen any time soon.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
Do not murder
Do not kidnap
Where can you go wrong with that you can get useful stuff out of the Bible without believing some crazy mad man
You can read the Bible and think about what the consequences of implementing the ideas in it would be as an individual or for a group
You do not have to believe the Bible should or should not be obeyed or is or is not historically or scientifically accurate to do that
@shortstories Yes, but you didn't need Abrahamic religion for that.
And murder/kidnapping are actually necessary (and extremely important) things you needed to do as a man back then for your tribe to survive, which is why Jews found loopholes to justify their actions.
If someone is telling you not to do the things that your ancestors did to survive, then you're being psyoped.
And honestly I can't see how a group which preaches that, plus the Torah could ever have been anything else.
@shortstories @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic Actually no, even at the time of Maimonides, some rabbis said that Christianity had been created by Hashem to bring the nations to the Jews.
This is what rabbis have been saying for a long time, now you have all the most influential ones on video repeating it.
Of course this is heresy to Christians but, as it's written in their bible: "You worship what you do not know, we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews."
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
Maimonides was alive allegedly more than one thousand years after the alleged execution of Jesus that is far too large a gap too accurately represent what Jews historically believed around the time of Jesus alleged execution when Christianity allegedly started
The Babylonian and Palestinian Talmud were allegedly compiled over a process that took hundreds of years and might give a better idea about what Jews thought about Jesus then
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic christians are Jew followers, Christ is a literal Jew, christians are no better than Jews. Even rome couldn't extinguish the Christ cuck.
@Based_Accelerationist wait a cotton pickin minute, are you saying we should believe this Jew, but Jew bad because they brainwash, but totally believe me this time a Jew is telling the truth to support my argument? Jews all the way down. I'm starting to think your a Jew...
@MrpoopyButhole Stop making stuff up and actually engage with the argument like a man.
It doesn't matter if you believe the rabbis or not, my point is they're contradicting TFM's claims and taking credit for the fall of Rome.
I also never said "Jew bad because they brainwash", I'm acknowledging that they want to influence whites not to have kids with each other. I'm not saying whites aren't responsible for complying with the propaganda (I'm all for blaming Christians), but facts are facts.
@Based_Accelerationist so remind me again why Rome collapsed? And no, posting a kike tier video about how to make Jew Jew cum doesn't count. That's fucking gay as hell.
@MrpoopyButhole Same reason why the current empire is collapsing: Christians, Jews and corruption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMuXQJIfmLI&ab_channel=peacedozer
@Based_Accelerationist corruption, got it. So only Jews and Christ cucks are capable of that. Wow that's sumpthin
@MrpoopyButhole No, not just a generic form of corruption, but a religious indoctrination that makes gentiles subservient to a foreign land and usury, two things that are very Abrahamic and you don't find in many other places.
Either way, it's WRONG to claim Jews had nothing to do with the collapse of Rome, when they're at the center of it. That was the original argument, don't run off to another topic, TFM is wrong, I am right and you're making excuses.
@Based_Accelerationist @Tfmonkey adapting Christianity into their pantheon was the biggest mistake Rome made and was the spiritual Trojan horse for Rome