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@TenaciousGoat And why did you pick an Abrahamic religion that was invented by Jews, worships a Jew, says Israel is the holy land, promotes socialist ideas, collapsed Rome, puts god above race and so on?

Why did you pick the same religion all the controlled opposition is pushing right now? From Tucker Carlson, to Alex Jones and all the other CIA grifters.

Why can't people be individuals and have their own faith, instead of looking to corrupt institutions to tell them what's right and wrong?

@Zeb @Mr_Mister Which is why the shooting won't start, unless it's another false flag. That would only happen if men lost all hope. This is why you see all these groups that pose as alternatives. MAGA, Christianity, MGTOW, all offering men false hope.

But men don't need hopium, they need to act. They need to understand that Putin won't save them, that there's no god to punish their enemies and that no amount of sex dolls will replace a family, or give purpose to a man who was divorce raped.

@Zeb @Mr_Mister If white men TWRA (the actual men, not the government) then it means they already took the elite's rights away, they already fought the military/police, etc. It's the last, least important step in all of this

If it's the gov TWRA, it's because they sent the men to war and need more meat.

Global female empowerment wasn't a mistake, it's what always happens when Jews subvert empires.
The solution to not repeating the same mistakes is to drop Christianity and put race above profit

@RodrickSage No dude, that's lame. Real straight men would rather pay to watch two dudes duking it out.

@Zeb @Mr_Mister You're forgetting the migrants, the inflation and all the other tools designed to make you own nothing, which they can easily fine-tune to offset women leaving the workforce.

The problems don't go away, simply because the government sent women back to the kitchen.

Men enforce all the tyranny, women are nothing in this equation. Their fictitious rights aren't in your way, other men are.
And the more you reward these compliant men, the worse things get.

@Zeb @Mr_Mister Let's say nothing else changes and all the economic problems keep getting worse and most men can't afford to buy a house, as everything in their country is increasingly owned by a certain banking cabal.

Would the men work blue collar jobs and raise families just because women are now obedient? Would they get married while living in a shared apartment with their buddies? Would they willingly have kids if it means they'd have to work 2 or 3 jobs?

I don't think so.

@Lorgar Some people are shocked at how many men turn out to be gay these days, but it's clear that it was a widespread issue long before the internet became a thing.

A good chunk of humanity has always been obsessed with watching naked men fight or be tortured, as well as with men's privates and penetrating them in some form, which is why even today, things like ritual circumcision are still everyday occurrences.

Lots of closet homos with violent fetishes, no wonder they love collectivism.

@Mr_Mister TWRA won't solve it. Status/Pussy is part of it, but that's only a symptom. This goes far beyond women. Pushing everyone into college? That's also a symptom.

The real problem is white people barely have any communities and don't work for themselves. White men don't mind working blue collar jobs, as long as it's for THEIR family/land/community/business.

But because we live in a fake economy that's all about working for someone else, men don't want to do it unless it pays really well.

The best way to predict a rigged game, is to know the people who own it. This is why Abrahamic scripture is relevant, even though it's garbage, that script is the plan.

And if the rabbis are to be believed, Trump is going to make a huge comeback and the US will enter a new (fake and short) golden age. Stocks will soar, Trump will get his Ukrainian deal and achieve peace in the Middle East. Everyone will shill for him. But then, when the copium reaches peak levels, it will all crash and burn.

@TenaciousGoat Here's the thing, those are mostly desirable things in the right context. If the men are so pathetic that they give women voting rights and actively support that system, then you DO want to cull them and the collapse becomes desirable.

In addition, when women are empowered, they choose chad over the betas, which is a good selection for humanity.

The problem is women weren't allowed to crash the system, thanks to all the money printing. So now we're surrounded by collectivist men

@VeganMGTOW @Lorgar It's the only way, actually. Sure, the system is ultimately enforced by the people and we can't fight an overwhelming majority, but we won't have to, a culling is inevitable at this point. The question is, will that culling be spearheaded by the elites and used to transition into a worse system, OR will resourceful individuals cause enough chaos among their circles and derail their plans?

If you've seen how most people die in hospitals, you wouldn't call that honorable.

@Lorgar MGTOW is the opposite of using fire, it's the water that puts the fire out. Men find peace and comfort in MGTOW, it's a way to cope with loss and prevent violence.

As for collapsing the system, that's what the elites want. The current system is on its way out, soon to be replaced by a much worse Eastern model. If that wasn't the plan, they would've empowered the obedient men. They wouldn't replace you with violent migrants.

Edom (the West) will be scorched, but it won't be by MGTOW.

@YoMomz This is why the situation, as it stands, is hopeless. Men are looking to support groups high on copium, instead of acting as warriors. Whether it's Maga, Christians, or Mgtow, they all offer men an alternative to fighting. That's the problem.

Men who were divorced raped, or who had their kids taken away, shouldn't be looking for emotional support groups.

Men need to lose all hope in the system and meditate on their wounds, instead of licking them.

@YoMomz Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Would-be-warriors dying in silence while their genetic legacy is destroyed, is throwing life away.

Everything is lining up so the collapse happens on their terms. Men will be forced to fight or die for the government regardless and we will have even less freedom than right now.

White people are their worst enemy and we definitely are asking to be culled, which I'm all for, as long as it's the right kind of culling. Controlled WW3 isn't it.

@TenaciousGoat I interpreted the "women in power destroy civilization" part as scapegoating both the men pulling the strings as well as the ones doing all the work to empower women.

I've seen a lot of people in the manosphere deny that men are the problem and pretend women are relevant enough as a group to matter, but perhaps you're right and I assumed incorrectly.

@TenaciousGoat A collective problem requires a solution on the same scale. And as a collective, white men need to fight for their genetic legacy. If the government interferes with their marriage/wife/kids, the solution isn't to accept the situation peacefully, divorce or cope with sex dolls. Pull a Joker, send a message. Be a warrior. And don't underestimate the damage one individual can make, in minecraft.

Does dying a slow death in a hospital bed surrounded by butchers sound that appealing?

@egirlyuumimain Kinda like they do with Christianity, Republicans, Trump and everything else that passes these days for opposition. Weird indeed.

@Zeb It was always part of the package. If "all women are like that" (meaning all women will cheat/divorce/misbehave), if the juice isn't worth the squeeze, if the laws in western countries are too awful to justify marrying or having kids, then... (insert sex doll add).

MGTOW men who have children, almost always had them prior to joining the movement. No matter how you look at it, it's an anti-natalist movement, not because having kids is bad, but because it isn't worth it.

@N_Y_SparkyOxCable Absolutely. The old money always plays the long term game. Stirring up the system too quickly with too much winning is risky, incremental wins and controlling the opposition is the key to their success.

Mgtow doesn't hurt them at this point, it's a net positive. They don't care if white men log off from the system, they're meant to be replaced by migrants and western economies are set to crash by design anyway. What they don't want is for us to go berserk on the way out.

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