I was listening to "A World Without Men" by Aaron Clarey, and while I am enjoying most of it, he seems to believe in no uncertain terms that the male sex drive is responsible for civilization because males made the transaction that males make with females (i.e. protection and provision for sex).
I do not believe that the males wanting to make a deal with females of resources for sex is why civilization came about.
> I do not believe that the males wanting to make a deal with females of resources for sex is why civilization came about
Well that's a belief you'll probably need to change since there's great evidence to prove it, or at the very least not disprove that connection.
I'm partway through a huge tome of a book called "Sex and Culture" by JD Unwin who published it in 1934. It's a serious piece of scholarship spanning 5000 years, 6 civilzations and 80 tribes ..
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.. and his conclusions are that:
1. the quality of any civilzation can be measured by the extent to which female sexuality is controlled by men (i.e. from absolute patriarchy to polgamy/polygyny).
2. that civilzational collapses are directly connected to point 1.
For a summary of his work I can recommend the following:
Article: https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/review-of-j-d-unwins-sex-and-culture
Video: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=nF9NPouGhlk
Unwin's book: https://a.co/d/7B5Pq14
This is likely where Clarey got it from.
@amerika @DoubleD @Zeb @basedbagel
Yes his name is mentioned in that article. I wish his work was more well known and discussed.
It seems as if Aaron Clarey has used Unwin as a major source for his recent book, and I'm totally down with that.
A fun side fact: Unwin died the same year as Oswald Spengler, another great scholar who also did a massive cross-civilizational study for his book "The Decline of the West".
@amerika @Zeb All these points made in your discussions, @UncleIroh and @basedbagel, were reasonable, and I cannot disagree with them being factors in the construction of civilization.
I take issue with Aaron's pronouncement that access to sex is the sole genesis of civilization.
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It is not the sole cause as evidenced by the geniuses and pioneers I mentioned earlier.
I argue that sex is one end which falls under the larger set of the satisfaction of uneasiness that Mises discussed in "Human Action" as this accounts for all males' drives.
