I get a few sideways looks from people, for saying that pedophile offenders aren't that different from normal people - but that they made a choice to first indulge in a fantasy, and then to offend.
And there's a bit of a joke that I used to tell, just to fuck with people for laughs, but that kind of illustrates the point.
It goes like this: Most every man has been in love with a twelve year old...
...back when he was twelve.
Offending is a conscious choice. And this justifies punishment. 🫡
@YoMomz but the thing is, if one is a non-offending pedophile they need to never admit to it. Ever. As soon as it's known they think about children they will never be looked at the same way again, and it will become necessary to treat them differently and isolate them.
So even if they don't act on it, out of sheer pragmatism you have to treat them as if they might act on it if they admit to their degeneracy.
@ButtWorldsMan - no doubt.
My goal is to understand the phenomenon, because in order to solve a problem, one must understand the problem.
It's a common view, to see pedophiles as something that is born, rather than made. And this misunderstanding can lead to misguided and ineffective "solutions", that solve nothing.
It leads to a sort of guilt from birth too. If pedophiles breed more pedophiles, then babies will be born guilty - which is usually bullshit. 🍻
I find the whole pedo debate tiresome and riddled with dishonesty.
On the one hand it's become this dumb purity test for all sides - left, right, religious - where people just want to virtue signal and throw the pedo label at anyone for anything.
On the other hand there's no denying that we have a legit pedo problem, and getting worse. Most of it is downstream from 50+ years of a sustained, coordinated attack on the Western family.
@UncleIroh @YoMomz @ButtWorldsMan One thing is fantasy the other what the fantasy is and if some retard would act on it.
Like if they catch pedo sending messages to kids. There is no other option than to kill him.
Every person know that messaging weird text to kids is retarded.
@Stahesh @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan - yeah, death to attempted offenders is fine with me - though entrapment would be particularly fucked up. It becomes a real fine line there. 🤔
My only point though, is that offenders are a lot like murderers, in that everyone has the capacity to murder someone, but the vast majority of people choose not to.
In the same way, everyone has the capacity to become a pedophile offender, but the vast majority of people don't - which is good, but could be better.➡️
@Stahesh @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan ➡️ I think that treating child sex offenses as a disease or "condition" is a mistake.
If it's a disease, then it's a self-inflicted disease, like alcoholism or addiction. There was a choice involved.
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Could it be considered a disease if someone was groomed and molested as a child in the same way that a predisposition to heart failure is a disease?
They might have a proclivity to the outcomes of the disease, but similar to how you don't have to get fat if you have a proclivity to heart failure, you don't have to molest children if you were molested.
From action and not intention or its proclivity is where the execution of judicial action comes.
@DoubleD - I get that the predisposition of child victims that grow up is real, and that it isn't fair. That unfairness is part of the tragedy that makes the crime so despicable. But even with that, there is a choice made when they face temptation.
Treating the matter as a disease though, allows for too many transgressions to slide.
Personally, I draw the line at action. If there's no victim, then there is no crime. If there's a victim or intended victim, then there is a crime - regardless. 🍻
@YoMomz I agree. It they are taking provable actions to make someone into a victim, the victim must be protected, and they must be stopped.
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