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@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey Personally, I hated reading The Republic. Socrates seemed to either be surrounded by Yes-men or idiots. Everyone always just agreed with him, "It can only be so." Meanwhile, as I read, I'm thinking of 3 other alternatives to what he says MUST be the case. I've tried 3 times to finish it in my life and I always have to stop from cringe.

I agree, Aristotle was the best of the 3. He had his feet planted in the real world more than Plato, who was more grounded than Socrates

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@RoninGrey @ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey For those of you who don't remember this accurate assessment:
"Very true."
"That is certain."
"Far truer."
"True."
"Certainly."
"To be sure."
"No question."
"I agree."
"Yes, very naturally."

When I read it I keep saying internally whilst shaking my head "You don't understand human nature, you proto-idealist."

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