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I have had a sore throat for nearly a week. It could be COVID, who cares? Anyway, I bought some "Throat Coat" tea from Walmart that is made with licorice root and slippery elm, and I recommend it.

It doesn't taste bad at all. It tastes a bit like black licorice and the finish reminds me of a breakfast pastry like a muffin or something. Imagine a black licorice muffin in tea form, and that's what it tastes like.

@WashedOutGundamPilot First they came for the tomboys, and I said nothing.

Then they came for the goth chicks, and I said nothing.

@Wopu When was the last time the French had a good idea?

It's "fascism" when they do it.

It's "____ capitalism" when we do it.

@philosophy Yes, there is a perceiver of perception, a thinker of thoughts, an observer of observations.

That is "the self".

What is it's nature? What it is "made of"? Is it the universe looking out through infinite eyes? Is it an immortal soul separate from the mind and body? Is is the dreamer experiencing the dream of existence?

I don't know.

@philosophy consciousness is such a loaded word with so many loaded meanings that I try to avoid it.

A plant is aware of the sun and reacts to it's light, growing towards it, and receiving it's light and absorbing its radiation to live.

Is the plant conscious of the sun? Definitionally, no. However, the plant clearly responds to the sun in a way that furthers its self interest (survival) within it's (very) limited ability to perceive and respond.

We are all likewise limited by our perception.

@philosophy Yes, the set of true propositions are non-empty" but the propositions themselves are rooted in pragmatic self-interest, thus subjective values and preferences.

and thus the there is no "true" correct way to discover, there is only your way, my way, etc.

@Pain66 you'll notice that this functions the same as slavery.

@kaiservenom this chart shows how the eatern concept of the Tao is infinitely superior to the western concept of the wish granting sky daddy.

@billstclair @mkultra sexual abstinence only makes sense and provides the benefits of a traditional family within the context of a patriarchal system.

Even in nature, males protect their mates and offspring. This doesn't need to be taught, as it's natural and automatic if relationships are allowed to form as nature intended.

It's not a coincidence that sexual "liberation" was the second wave of feminism, while anti patriarchal egalitarianism was the first.

@philosophy This is the core issue. There is no such thing as objective truth. Truth is a characteristic of proposition which can be true or false, but philosophical "truth" cannot exist because values cannot be true or false because the only way to judge anything is through consequentialism, which relies entirely on values and preferences.

Also saying "there is no objective truth" is a preposition that is true, but truth is not an object itself.

Watch this video please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLJczkOU44

@philosophy truth isn't objective, and whether something is "worth it" is also subjective. That's a value question, and we know from economics and common sense that value is wholly subjective.

It's cool that you like Schopenhauer and don't think it's "worth it" and that any value anyone finds is a delusion. That's YOUR subjective value.

@mkultra "rights" are just a formalization of that which people are willing to kill and die for. Religious people kill and die for their God, and thus the "right" of religious freedom/tolerance came to be.

The vocabulary is irrelevant. There is plenty of killing and dying in the bible, and the political power flowed directly from that killing and dying (i.e. rights)

Refusing to acknowledge the problem because it isn't explicitly in the Bible doesn't make the problem magically disappear.

@philosophy Ultimately, there is no one true "philosophy" that is good for everyone. Philosophy is the "art of living", but different philosophies might benefit different people.

In the end, you haven't killed yourself, so you're living for something, and whatever that thing is appears to be worth the suffering of existence, so just make the most out of it.

@mkultra You are correct as far as the essential reality is concerned. Women are fundamentally not (and shouldn't be) political actors, but their status was willed artificially into existence at great ongoing cost to humanity and society.

Regardless of this women have rights, and the ongoing cost of these rights creates the situation that both you and I must navigate through as we wait for things to get bad enough.

Ultimately, idealistic notions of "equality" are anathema to nature and reality

@mkultra 1. you would be right if women were never given rights, especially voting rights. This made them political actors. This is solvable however.

2. The incel problem can be solved in the same way removing women as political actors can be solved. The problems are one and the same.

3. God gave men a biological and emotional need for love and sex, and Feminism ruined everything, forcing men to seek alternatives.

All of these are the same problem with the same solution.

@ChristiJunior back to 1919.

@mkultra She's comparing men who masturbate to sluts who take a mile of dick and have had a dozen abortions.

It's like a drug addicted prostitute with AIDS saying that she shouldn't be judged because people take over-the-counter cold medicine.

@kaiservenom