I was listening to "A World Without Men" by Aaron Clarey, and while I am enjoying most of it, he seems to believe in no uncertain terms that the male sex drive is responsible for civilization because males made the transaction that males make with females (i.e. protection and provision for sex).
I do not believe that the males wanting to make a deal with females of resources for sex is why civilization came about.
> I do not believe that the males wanting to make a deal with females of resources for sex is why civilization came about
Well that's a belief you'll probably need to change since there's great evidence to prove it, or at the very least not disprove that connection.
I'm partway through a huge tome of a book called "Sex and Culture" by JD Unwin who published it in 1934. It's a serious piece of scholarship spanning 5000 years, 6 civilzations and 80 tribes ..
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.. and his conclusions are that:
1. the quality of any civilzation can be measured by the extent to which female sexuality is controlled by men (i.e. from absolute patriarchy to polgamy/polygyny).
2. that civilzational collapses are directly connected to point 1.
For a summary of his work I can recommend the following:
Article: https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/review-of-j-d-unwins-sex-and-culture
Video: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=nF9NPouGhlk
Unwin's book: https://a.co/d/7B5Pq14
This is likely where Clarey got it from.
I agree with point 1 and 2.
My only issue is that while I do believe MOST men are motivated to improve because of women, it doesn't account for ~10-20% of us.
1. Gays aren't less ambitious
2. Alot of eccentric people that moved society forward like Sir Issac Newton were virgins.
3. As an ex-nerd we all knew we weren't going to get any brownie points with females because we made the honor roll or because our code was clean 😂
We just did it for its own sake.▶️
We're not talking about the margins of modern day America here, we're talking about measuring the broad effect of male-female relations across all major civilzations for the last 5000 years.
Agreed. That statement is pure self-contradiction.
Egalitarianism has infected everything, it's the West's Holy Cow, the lie that won't die in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.
Alright I'm logging off now but this was good reading.
Too bad I can't tell LITERALLY anyone offline about it lol
Just keep it in your back pocket for when someone thinks the idea sounds insane.
You now have a legit study to refer them too that will be extremely difficult for them to refute or scoff at.
@UncleIroh @Zeb @DoubleD
That's a great one-liner I'm stealing that!
Another thing is while the article is superb I HATE how academics talk.
He could have cut it in 1/2 and still got the point across but its all good I learned a couple new words.
Also I'm not sure how much I trust a survey asking women about sexual partners. But since the results align with my bias and observable reality I tacitly agree with it.