Uncle Iroh ☑️ @[email protected]

@h4890

I did not say "every source of data and every medical professional". That's a straw man.

The cost of the FDA/CDC's deception can be measured in the 100,000's by now, if not millions.

Public trust in these institutions was a normal bell curve and the average normie had no prior reason to presume distrust.

But that kind of fuck-up can only happen once before the trust bell curve is permanently re-written.

The world does not live by Swedish standards of governance.

@dander

Nice. I did exactly the same when I was hiring.

@dander

These young'uns haven't been scarred by the true horror of OG memes like Goatse.

Time to rip the band-aid off.

@h4890

That's actually a handy shortcut that could potentially be of practical use to lots of people.

It can be gamed however.

Point number 1 assumes you have trustworthy institutions that are not captured by political/financial interests in the way the FDA/CDC have since proved to be.

It assumes easy access to trustworthy, accurate and timely data. Many countries fail these criteria.

Point 2 assumes the same, i.e. that medical professionals have not been compromised.

@FinalDresdonation @basedbagel

> See I disagree.

Not really. Your 1st paragraph is a restatement of my last 2.

What you've added is the opinion that distrust is at the root of it, and that's probably right. If so, it's a reflexive distrust that requires contrary proof to begin opening up untrusted defaults.

Sounds right.

@MelGibsonafter4Beers @Bertpro2000

Makes sense. His apparent non-sequitur about elephants was actually a good analogy.

I wish he could have met Ted Kaczynski.

@[email protected] @[email protected] @sluggets

It's even better than that. Through the combination of compliance test + IQ test, you can be a double Phd but have all of that capacity overridden by also being a totally compliant pussy.

Likewise, you could be a literal Down's retard who has no ability to reason like the double Phd can, but through some combination of intuition and an inner Chad that can say Fuck You, our lovable retard lives while the double Phd does the Pfizer dance.

@[email protected] @sluggets @[email protected]

Here's my conclusion.

Vaccination was both a compliance test AND an IQ test.

Some failed both, some passed both, but you only had to pass the compliance test to win since failing the IQ test would have no bearing on the outcome if you didn't comply.

Therefore it paid better odds to be disagreeable and opinionated than it did to be intelligent.

I like this conclusion since it accounts for reason/intuition but puts the onus on how much of a pussy someone is.

@basedbagel

Great way to frame it: it was both tests, a compliance AND an IQ test.

Some failed both, some passed both, but you only had to pass the compliance test to win since failing the IQ test would have no bearing on the outcome if you didn't comply.

Therefore it pays better odds to be disagreeable and opinionated than it does to be intelligent.

I like this conclusion.

@basedbagel

I know some very high IQ people with excellent abstract thinking abilities that fell for it. It's not stupidity.

It's more like a combination of habitual ignorance through blind trust, coupled with a higher tendency to comply, either through threat or bribery.

And an inability to believe in the possibility of the Big Lie.

@sluggets @[email protected] @[email protected]

It sucks learning that no family escapes getting beaten with the retard stick.

@redmaple

Doesn't matter, you got there. And you can again.

@[email protected] @[email protected]

After the last 3 years I'm putting that figure between 80-90%.

Case in point: Ye lit up the targetfor everyone to see and still 80-90% believe in left vs right.

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Same.

@[email protected] @[email protected]

I'm counting on it.

@basedbagel

Yes but the mandates came much later in the timeline. I'm trying to deconstruct the decision-making process from the very beginning.

And then to the point where vaccines were introduced.

When the vaccines arrived I was completely baffled by those who tried to cheat their way to the front of the line!! That actually happened.
What in the actual fuck?!

@redmaple

Agree on all those points. My point was those came AFTER i had decided it was all bullshit, which happened right near the beginning of it all.

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Well, I'll summarize so far.

Intuition and reason were both important decision making tools. Clearly, both processes worked for a significant minority, so it was possible despite the excuses people continueto make.

We're not going to come to any meaningful conclusions here because there are too many variables that impact, but if people were to face a fresh crisis that tested their ability to reason/intuit, I'm not convinced those who fell for it wouldn't again.

@[email protected]

That's why it's funny. I have the same view of you.