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@FinalDresdonation @UncleIroh @dander

So to run your vm I recommend virtual box.

Then get linux mint from here:https://linuxmint.com/download.php

Then I would just take a free course on youtube for the basics and you're off to the races!

@FinalDresdonation @UncleIroh @dander

IMO start with Linux mint or Ubuntu.

Then you can branch out based on your use case.

Also I recommend starting with a virtual machine so if you break something you can just revert to a snapshot.

@UncleIroh @dander

Fair enough, I love QubesOS but found it clunky as a daily driver.

I like my work mac because:

gigabit internet + m1 chip = blazing fast turnaround for clients.

As a new business the best way I can over-deliver is via sped.

You'll never hear a client say:

"Damn that was great! But can you get it back to me slower next time?"

@UncleIroh @dander

Not a fan of apple products but they have saved me MANY headaches.

Ever since I got my mom all apple products I don't get incessant calls asking me how to do things anymore.

She just figures it out intuitively.

I've accepted that normies want trendy things that work.

They HATE troubleshooting no matter how simple the issue is so for them I recommend mac/windows >linux

@UncleIroh @dander Are they modern OS' though?

I have windows 10, 11, linux mint, ubuntu 22, and kali running like BUTTER with no fan noise.

I know I have a niche use case but I think it's reductive to dismiss the utility of a mac altogether.

Everything has it's use.

@UncleIroh @dander This reminds me of a funny story.

Back when I did pc repair we had a customer come in who wanted an new OS but didn't want to pay for windows as all he did was check email and play a card game.

So my coworker installed linux mint and changed and changed some icons.

This old guy NEVER cared and continued on with no issues.

He was also WAY more secure than 99% of old people now.

I haven't quite got the terminal yet but time will tell.

@UncleIroh @dander

I would recommend trying it at a best buy and you might be impressed.

This thing is optimized so well I hardly use the 32gb on my m1 pro and I'm running multiple VMs while rendering 4k video.

It got a little warm but no fan noise and I LOVE it!

But I understand I have specific narrow use case that justifies the absurd price. (Plus I got a student discount)

@UncleIroh @dander That's true privacy sucks on both mac and windows now.

Thanks to the patriot act and prism program expect that to only get worst.

I stayed away from linux as I thought it was too complex to be worth the switching cost.

Microsoft forced my hand with windows 11 I just couldn't do it anymore.

Funny thing is outside of a few bugs/driver issues most people could pay someone to setup linux and just use web apps and be WAY more secure than windows + antivirus

@UncleIroh @dander

Also a Mac is a little more secure due to it's lower install base making it not as worthwhile to create exploits for as windows.

It's not perfect but it has it's uses, especially if you do creative work.

Like I said before m1 the only apple product i liked was the ipad.

I would encourage you to try an M1 out it's a game changer for my workflow.

@UncleIroh @dander U se mac for some things because they just work better due to the better optimization.

Privacy doesn't matter to me because the MAC is only for work. But Windows 11 is just as bad if not worst when it comes t privacy IMO

I'm switching to Ubuntu because Windows keeps fucking up things that work in favor of being trendy.

Gaming on windows is superior but I don't game much these days.