I was listening to "A World Without Men" by Aaron Clarey, and while I am enjoying most of it, he seems to believe in no uncertain terms that the male sex drive is responsible for civilization because males made the transaction that males make with females (i.e. protection and provision for sex).

I do not believe that the males wanting to make a deal with females of resources for sex is why civilization came about.

@DoubleD @Zeb @basedbagel

> I do not believe that the males wanting to make a deal with females of resources for sex is why civilization came about

Well that's a belief you'll probably need to change since there's great evidence to prove it, or at the very least not disprove that connection.

I'm partway through a huge tome of a book called "Sex and Culture" by JD Unwin who published it in 1934. It's a serious piece of scholarship spanning 5000 years, 6 civilzations and 80 tribes ..

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@DoubleD @Zeb @basedbagel

.. and his conclusions are that:

1. the quality of any civilzation can be measured by the extent to which female sexuality is controlled by men (i.e. from absolute patriarchy to polgamy/polygyny).

2. that civilzational collapses are directly connected to point 1.

For a summary of his work I can recommend the following:

Article: https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/review-of-j-d-unwins-sex-and-culture

Video: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=nF9NPouGhlk

Unwin's book: https://a.co/d/7B5Pq14

This is likely where Clarey got it from.

@UncleIroh @Zeb @DoubleD

I agree with point 1 and 2.

My only issue is that while I do believe MOST men are motivated to improve because of women, it doesn't account for ~10-20% of us.

1. Gays aren't less ambitious

2. Alot of eccentric people that moved society forward like Sir Issac Newton were virgins.

3. As an ex-nerd we all knew we weren't going to get any brownie points with females because we made the honor roll or because our code was clean 😂

We just did it for its own sake.▶️

@basedbagel @Zeb @DoubleD

We're not talking about the margins of modern day America here, we're talking about measuring the broad effect of male-female relations across all major civilzations for the last 5000 years.

@UncleIroh @Zeb @DoubleD

My 2nd quibble is more confusion than disagreement.

"If a society wants to maintain a high level of culture we must emancipate women WITHOUT compromising absolute monogamy."

This is a contradictory sentence as you can't have women be monogamous and free.

You MUST take their rights away.

But I get he probly wanted to end the video on a positive note and I don't think he'd have a very long career if he said #TWRA lol

Solid video overall. Onto the article