In your opinion would it be a net benefit if the internet were destroyed forever right now?
@UncleIroh I think it'd be better destroyed and my life would be better. As much as I like the online clicks I have I have also found enough social success to fit in with people. Really, the socialization destruction of people's attention spans has sucked. I went from being able to talk with people chilling to now everyone is on their phone with low quality repeat interactions. Shit's weird, and women while they'd still have a ton of issues wouldn't be so broadly accessible.
@basedbagel @FinalDresdonation
This is a really tough one for me. It's personally been beneficial and devastating in turn.
At the extremes the argument that tools are morally neutral runs out - the Oppenheimer dilemna, weaponized ebola, or giving everyone to ability to make their own nuclear bombs are examples.
With the internet it's the 2nd, 3rd, nth order effects that are still playing themselves out.
I'd err on the side of "goods > harms but barely". We are kids running with scissors.
@basedbagel @FinalDresdonation
To get philosophical for a moment, at some level of existential danger it ultimately comes down to a utilitarian vs moral absolutism argument.
That's why I find Dune fascinating. Herbert posed this dilemna and resolved it with the Butlerian Jihad, a mixture of both utilitarianism and moral absolutism.
That's a great analysis but in my opinion as soon as the first atomic bomb was dropped the existential danger was there.
The internet leveled the playing field for the middle/ lower classes to get proper information and cooperate on a large scale.
Ex. IDK who or where you are. You could be a glowie for all I know but you ended up getting me closer to my dad LOL.
That and bypassing gatekeepers alone makes it a win in my book
@basedbagel @FinalDresdonation
Appreciate that. Also mostly agree, even if there are a sea of glowie fags out there.
No problem!
Furthermore if it wasn't for the Internet id be vaxxed and married...
AND I couldn't get a biz bank account opened easily.
But thanks to do tech companies I have a biz bank account and a line of 💳 soon 🙏🏿
So yeah I'm a bit biased on the information superhighway.
@basedbagel @UncleIroh @FinalDresdonation what is a biz bank account and how does it make you feel free from the cathedrals conquest?
A business bank account allows me to separate personal expenses from business expenses for tax advantages.
It also gives me a separate line of credit. Banks are a lot more lenient and have higher credit limits for businesses credit than personal credit lines.
plus it's nice having physical card for my business 😎
@basedbagel @UncleIroh @FinalDresdonation maybe Elon will get the chip approved for your brain so the Cathedral can give you the electronic dopamine hit you need peer transaction,when CBDC can configure your taxe credits in real time and you won’t even need a card then plebe
@FinalDresdonation @UncleIroh
There are countries in the world that have basically very low internet access or no connection for most of their territory.
Ethiopia being a brics member with 81% of the population has no internet. Eritrea has a 2% internet usage, while even big countries like India and Pakistan have less than 50% internet access.
All the "issues" one associates with the internet are all government/culture created problems.
> All the "issues" one associates with the internet are all government/culture created
Which is to say it's endemic such that these issues and all the intractable nth order effects will increase as global access increases.
Public goods too. There's no easy answer.
@UncleIroh @FinalDresdonation
Exactly. Sometime men will have to face problems head-on and solve it for good. You can't run away forever, specially when it gets to the point wars/conflicts are at your door. It's inevitable.
This is why many people, myself included, often frame this time we live in as a spiritual war.
It demands that every man face these issues head-on. No-one gets to run away.
@UncleIroh @FinalDresdonation
It's not only a spiritual war. We're on a hot war already, it was a cold one until covid activated. Men are just in denial, despite everyone knowing. Just look around.
It's inevitable that at some point men will once again regain the desire to drink from the skulls of their enemies.
@UncleIroh @Zeb @FinalDresdonation Moonshine of chorus
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@UncleIroh
I'm biased but thanks to the Internet I met good friends, started my business and found fantastic free entertainment.
The Internet is a tool. What you do with it is your problem