I get a few sideways looks from people, for saying that pedophile offenders aren't that different from normal people - but that they made a choice to first indulge in a fantasy, and then to offend.
And there's a bit of a joke that I used to tell, just to fuck with people for laughs, but that kind of illustrates the point.
It goes like this: Most every man has been in love with a twelve year old...
...back when he was twelve.
Offending is a conscious choice. And this justifies punishment. 🫡
@YoMomz but the thing is, if one is a non-offending pedophile they need to never admit to it. Ever. As soon as it's known they think about children they will never be looked at the same way again, and it will become necessary to treat them differently and isolate them.
So even if they don't act on it, out of sheer pragmatism you have to treat them as if they might act on it if they admit to their degeneracy.
@ButtWorldsMan - no doubt.
My goal is to understand the phenomenon, because in order to solve a problem, one must understand the problem.
It's a common view, to see pedophiles as something that is born, rather than made. And this misunderstanding can lead to misguided and ineffective "solutions", that solve nothing.
It leads to a sort of guilt from birth too. If pedophiles breed more pedophiles, then babies will be born guilty - which is usually bullshit. 🍻
I find the whole pedo debate tiresome and riddled with dishonesty.
On the one hand it's become this dumb purity test for all sides - left, right, religious - where people just want to virtue signal and throw the pedo label at anyone for anything.
On the other hand there's no denying that we have a legit pedo problem, and getting worse. Most of it is downstream from 50+ years of a sustained, coordinated attack on the Western family.
@UncleIroh @YoMomz @ButtWorldsMan One thing is fantasy the other what the fantasy is and if some retard would act on it.
Like if they catch pedo sending messages to kids. There is no other option than to kill him.
Every person know that messaging weird text to kids is retarded.
@Stahesh @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan - yeah, death to attempted offenders is fine with me - though entrapment would be particularly fucked up. It becomes a real fine line there. 🤔
My only point though, is that offenders are a lot like murderers, in that everyone has the capacity to murder someone, but the vast majority of people choose not to.
In the same way, everyone has the capacity to become a pedophile offender, but the vast majority of people don't - which is good, but could be better.➡️
@YoMomz @Stahesh @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan The whole question is one of guilt in intention or guilt in action:
To prevent continued victimization of children we want to prosecute those who are guilty action.
To prevent possible victimization of children we want to prosecute those who are guilty of intention.
We cannot now nor may ever be able to know people's intentions without evidence as displayed by attempts or completed acts.
@DoubleD @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan Most of these are people whore are guilty by action.
Even just messaging kids with inappropriately intentions is already action.
One thing is thinking about it and watching sus hentai.
The other is already making first step for future crime.
@Stahesh @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan I understand your perspective in this.
The issue is that we have to "draw the line somewhere".
We could prosecute an individual based upon their perceived intention, and you'd probably rightly identify and prevent acts like molesting children, but where do you draw the line?
The state, the means of coercion and control via force then has the authority to criminalize people's intentions because they've been given the responsibility thereof.
@DoubleD @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan I
Talking weird things to kid without parents and no reason GUILTY
Starting conversasions with kid for no reason and wanting to meet them or get their picture GUILTY
Not mentioning many the baiters say they are under age and they keep messaging so there is already escalation.
It is like saying the guy did not wanted to stab you he was just getting closer with knife ready to stab you.
He who allows the Alien to live shares in its crime of existence
@Stahesh @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan I hear you, and I understand that this is a value judgement, which is fine.
A "better safe than sorry" attitude will certainly stop perpetrators, and even if there is a question, you can easily see in many cases what is legitimate and what is not as you outlined above.
As long as you understand the ramifications of your choices, I am sanguine.
@DoubleD @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan We both will follow our WILLS.
So good luck in your journey.✊ 😇
@Stahesh @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan Those actions are red flags and the actors are guilty of those acts; they likely have the intention to do more terrible things; I agree.
In these cases, it is up to the fathers to protect themselves and their families, which I fully support. I don't support granting the government the power to decide if someone is guilty of having the wrong intentions.
@DoubleD @YoMomz @UncleIroh @ButtWorldsMan After they make any first sthem they should be marked to kill IMO better to be save than sorry.
Those who understand know that you have no right to let them live