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@white_male @ButtWorldsMan nobody's self interest is morally superior to anyone else's self interest, and everything ultimately boils down to power.

When we can't sit down and talk and decide who's right, we kill each other to decide who's left.

@PordanJeterson @VooDooMedic Everyone is this way, it's human nature. It takes a big brain to abstract and consider someone else's world view without superimposing your own and assuming what's good for you is good for everyone.

@ButtWorldsMan why can't the people who want to be taken care of by the government be allowed to do so while not involving everyone else who wants to be left alone?

Obviously some people want/need to be taken care of and are willing to give up their freedom, and they should be allowed to do so.

I don't want to "force" freedom on anyone, but I don't want them to force their system on me either.

@white_male @ButtWorldsMan no, it's not "good enough for the common good" just because it benefits 51% of people. This is why democracies fail. The 51% learn they can prey on the 49% and it ends in war and collapse.

Also, although I don't know your politics, based on your name you're probably pro white people, but according to polls, white nationalists are a minority, thus the "will of the people" has triumphed, and you lose.

See how this works?

@PordanJeterson Voodoo is his own man and he volunteered to be part of the show when Kuroi left. Why don't you message @VooDooMedic and coach him or something instead of bitching about how I'm manipulating Voodoo into making white nationalists look stupid

@white_male @ButtWorldsMan there is no such thing as "the common good" or "the will of the people". There are only groups of people with their own self interest, some of which have more power and influence than others.

The state is a mechanism for the powerful to take from the less powerful. This can be a oligarchy of the rich preying on the poor, or a democracy of the poor preying on the rich.

Being in the 99% within a dictatorship is no better than being in the 49% within a democracy.

@PordanJeterson so you would be fine being a slave as long as your slave master was the same nationality as you?

Interesting take.

@ButtWorldsMan if you free most people, and they cannot find a replacement slavemaster, they will create one for themselves.

@sardonicsmile @ButtWorldsMan @mrhorsetwat @VooDooMedic When your only options are to get divorce raped, attempt to overthrow the government and get shot to death, or "do your 20" in a sexless marriage, the lesser evil is pretty clear.

@ButtWorldsMan @mrhorsetwat @VooDooMedic There are a lot of married guys in sexless marriages who stick around until their kids are old enough in order to not have to pay child support.

@mrhorsetwat @VooDooMedic he is a divorcee in his 40s or older and his new wife was made for the streets. Many such cases.

@ButtWorldsMan urban warfare is so much easier when you can commit war-crimes with impunity.

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