@Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic I want to throw my several cents in on the topic of BDSM since you brought it up on the show. You frequently go to cock and ball torture, but that is one small side of the whole.
Bondage
Domination
Sadism
Masochism
BDSM, in my opinion, is mostly about power, and the sadomasochism is merely one manifestation for those who enjoy mixing pleasure and pain together.
@Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic What do hair pulling, spanking, humiliation, debasing language, domination/submission, bondage, discipline (physical, verbal, etc.) all have in common? Dynamics of power. In my opinion, the power dynamics are the truely desired element.
Please give this some thought and don't just jump to cock and ball every time or assume that just because someone loves the D/s side of things they have sadomasochistic tendencies. Some people hate causing pain but love the power dynamic.
@VooDooMedic @Tfmonkey I'm also not trying to be preachy: I want TFM to update his model/perspective of BDSM so it's more accurate.
@DoubleD @VooDooMedic @Tfmonkey
There is no better way to understand this than to read the books of the men for whom Sadism and Masochism are named.
From the Marquis de Sade, I'd say read "Justine", or else "120 days of Sodom."
I had a copy of Masoch's "Venus in Furs" years ago, but didn't finish it.
Sade was the ultimate degenerate, literally nothing off limits. I always find it funny that people leave him out of discussions about Enlightenment philosophy. He was pure Enlightenment.
@UncleIroh @DoubleD @Tfmonkey never actually did any research into why they are called the way they are I might look into it what are the names of the books that you'd recommend like after reading those or just those two
@VooDooMedic @UncleIroh @DoubleD @Tfmonkey Sadly TFM as many men suffer from being too nice and forget to be agressive or dominant to people that deserve it especially to women.
Like you can't show weakness to woman she thinks you are weak and can't protect her so she start to look elswhere and cheat.
Sadly for guys like him is to change, be single or exploited by some bitch.
I see it daily men in relationships are either selfish or simps hardly I see normal men in relationships.
@Stahesh @UncleIroh @DoubleD @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
It's because "normal" relationships are practically illegal in the west. One phone call and down to prison you go.
@VooDooMedic @Zeb @Stahesh @UncleIroh @Tfmonkey Speaking of beatings, the whole stereotype of Muslims "beating" their wives is predominantly raising your voice and gripping her much like you would with a child if they ran away and you wanted to impress on them how dangerous it was. Actual spanking is a last resort.
@Zeb @Stahesh @UncleIroh @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
BDSM relationships if they were allowed to work according to their contracts could be a means to having a working marriage in the west, but because judges can legislate from the bench with impunity and the "primary aggressor" is arrested on the spot during a domestic violence call, it still is not a good idea.
@DoubleD @Stahesh @UncleIroh @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
All judges will immediately throw any BDSM contract in the trash and laugh out loud as he does it.
@Zeb @DoubleD @Stahesh @Tfmonkey @VooDooMedic
All the while knowing full well that his private "arrangements" and those of his friends are immune to the same judgement.
@Zeb @Stahesh @UncleIroh @DoubleD @Tfmonkey sadly yes and the only cure is beatings