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@37712 @sardonicsmile

No the problem is you don't understand how women think.

You cant define winning by adult standards and apply it to a child.

It doesn't work that way.

Check with the older women in your life, I think you'll be shocked at how well they're doing.

@37712 You're falling for the hype.

Those women crying on the internet are just attention whores.

Women DONT WANT to be married, men do.

Women just want to be taken care of and have fun

And in China women STILL set the terms due to the abundance of men with the 1 child policy.

There is no such thing as women losing it's all a giant cope

@37712 You have to look at a woman from a female point of view.

As long as she's having fun with no accountability she's winning.

They dont care about self-actualization.

In the event of a societal collapse they will STILL be taken care of.

History shows it's always the men that suffer. Women are just along for the ride.

@37712 @sardonicsmile Again you're projecting masculine standards on to a woman.

I define winning as doing what you want, when you want, with who you want.

Women have everything they desire and while there is less when they get older the wall is a myth.

@37712 I see what you're saying but in reality I haven't seen it pan out that way.

Where are all these older, lonely and destitute women?

Because I go outside see a TON of lonely broke men.

@37712 Unfortunately I have to think about them because they're literally unavoidable.

Remember the art of war to know your enemy.

Plus just because normies are stupid /= useless. I have some normies I like and they're good to me.

@37712 @sardonicsmile

It seems like you're projecting masculine values onto women

Women don't care about things like family. They don't do well with long term thinking.

They care about having fun, getting attention and maybe children

Women don't need to do ANYTHING to get male attention.

They have all the welfare and there are more than enough men to go around.

It's impossible for a woman to be in the West and fail at life.

@37712 In my experience the only older women I know that are alone are the ones that want to be.

Most men want a partner and family. Most women just want to be taken care of and maybe have a kid.

I know women in their LATE 50s still dating younger men. Their only regret is kids.

I hate to say it but I don't see how a woman can lose in the West. .

@37712 Women in general suck at business so I'm not too worried there.

But college... I did ALOT of work to get my scholarships. That's unforgivable

@37712 I sure did!

I'm shocked I haven't seen normies discuss it much but they'll find out the hard way after we've escaped

@37712 @sardonicsmile

Depends on how you define winning.

She works half as much as me and makes more $$ so in my eyes she's winning.

I know women 35-50 who still have men chasing them. The wall is a myth as long as you dont want kids.

The default state of a woman is miserable, so she'll never be "happy".

But she will ALWAYS be taken care of.

I don't blame anyone for working a job. .

Starting my business has been a giant headache with one new stressful situation after another.

If you have the self awareness to know business isn't for you that's fine.

But I have to make this work before the next pandemic/vax mandate

@sardonicsmile Couldn't have said it better myself.

MFW when I found out women get FREE grants to go to college.

Thank you! @sardonicsmile someone who actually goes outside.

All these bitches crying online are just crying for attention.

i hate to admit it but women NEVER lose.

I know a girl who ran up 150K+ in student loans and paid it off via hoeing. She now lives better than me who finished UNI...

The ONLY time women "lose" is if they wait too long to have a kid. In which case they can just adopt one.

Society is setup for women to never lose. Because if the do we go extinct.

Every time I see a homeless bitch I think to myself:

Does her pussy just not work?
Does she have AIDS?
Is she retarded?

If not I have no pity

I see alot of people saying that women win in the short term but lose in the long term.

This is just not true. I know PLENTY of women 30-45 who finesse men and are still living the dream.