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@VeganMGTOW And how will that be sustainable either? Last I checked they are a net negative in economic contribution. Even more violence may take place with government collapse, if they do not outright self deport due to them no longer benefiting economically.

And even if they are the hard working ones who are net contributors, they are not there because they love Western culture. It is for economic benefit and nothing else.

One thing I find ridiculous about the projection of the African population over the century is the assumption that the population growth will be sustainable in any way. And add in the fact that when Western governments collapse, a lot of people are going to die when food aid is no longer coming in and the violence that will likely follow.

@ButtWorldsMan @Tfmonkey >don't call 911 unless you are at risk of death

For any non-medical risk of death, this just means that the police will arrive just in time to identify your body.

@PordanJeterson >there are fertility problems occurring due to race mixing last i heard

Last I observed, there is a ton of people in Latin American countries that seem to be reproducing just fine despite the fact that many of the people there as a result of race mixing (at least from a long time ago when Spain was practicing colonialism).

Maybe that is just one example though.

@PordanJeterson I said same species, not same sub-species. Don't put words in my mouth. I would not argue that they are the same sub-species, and the image in question says "species" and not "sub-species."

@PordanJeterson >but so can a Coyote and a pittbull, are they the exact same species too?

If they can indeed produce fertile offspring, I will gladly call them the same species. I don't care about what some official taxonomy says if they are going to pick and choose which are distinct species and which are not based on inconsistent criteria. And if these people tell me otherwise, I will challenge them to apply the standard to different races of humans as well.

@PordanJeterson Real talk, the top part of the image "being distinct species" is a whole lot of stupid bullshit. I am pretty sure that the African and Eurasian Golden Jackals could produce fertile offspring, making them NOT distinct species.

My guess is that the "distinct species" is a whole lot of agenda pushing of "scientists" who are of the Atheism+ variety who are overzealous about evolution.

@Pain66 Newsflash: women do not realize how rare it is for most men to get compliments/validation/overt sexual interest from women that whoever made this comic did not realize that most men would welcome this sort of "role reversal."

@BigTLarrity The blue and yellow flag profile is both right and wrong. Yes, we do not literally see the image of an apple, but our minds can "see" in the sense that you can mentally map out what an apple looks like. I can so the same thing, such as imagining a golden lab wearing sunglasses.

If it was impossible to make this sort visualization in your head, then artists would never be able to draw anything not in front of them. No fantasy or sci-fi drawings could exist.

What a couple of idiots.

@37712 >if you leave it to libeal men and women then a better deal would be free money for women to have more kids and we all know how that works out.

I said give MEN a better deal, not women. Free money for women is not giving men a better deal. I figured that was clear enough, but if you want me to go as far as saying we should go back to full blown patriarchy, I agree. I figured that saying "men need to be given a better deal" is a great way to open the door to conversation.

So if you want to increase birth rates, give men a better deal. Men getting a better deal will mean men are more likely to accept the idea of marriage again, and you will have a good number more of children per couple.

Sure, some couples will still opt to have only 1 or 2 kids, but 1 or 2 is better than 0 when it comes to improving the overall numbers. And many married couples will want more than just 1 or 2 (if they get started early enough).

Why are there less pairings/marriages overall? It is because men see that prospect as a bad deal and want no part of a deal that could destroy them in numerous ways. It is a worse deal due to the government giving women an easy way out to destroy the marriage for as little as "I don't feel like it," as well as the women themselves choosing to forego the best years they should be giving their husband and instead expecting their future husband to wait until she is in her 30s.

One factor with falling birth rates I see is not that married couples are necessarily having too few children (though family sizes overall are down), it is the lack of marriages/pairing overall going on that is at the head of the issue. Too many people not forming long term relationships means that there are going to be overall less children as a result.

I am aware of single mothers and all that, but that's a symptom of another issue as well (and certainly not making up for lack of births).

@sickburnbro I recall that GDP of any particular product is only calculated at it's end phase, which means that resources extracted from rural parts of America would not be counted while the end products made in the more urban areas would be considered where that GDP would be counted.

Did I get that correct?

@DW2 @luithe Going from 1.1 to 1.3 is nothing to celebrate. Men need to be given a better deal in order for there to be a meaningful change in the birth rates. That usually means taking away many feminist privileges that are enforced by the government. And given how Japan is currently under the thumb of the US (see: drag queen/lgbt shit being pushed), that is not likely to change soon. Though there is a chance if the US collapses.

@sickburnbro Many people coming from these countries do have a distaste for their own governments and understand that they are corrupt. The lolberts will say, "See? These people are right in line with us!"

Except that the people from those countries are far more likely to just endorse a "better" government in countries like the US and vote for more government to get more out of the system. So they end up making the country less free as a result.

So I have come to despise many "libertarians."

@sickburnbro Too many libertarians are foolish enough to think that promoting open borders with the same fervor that they promote cutting all government spending does not have any inherent contradictions. They can't even get the existing population to get on board with making their policies a reality, so they have to be extra stupid to think that people from 3rd world countries who have no concept of libertarianism are going to embrace smaller government.