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There's this illusion that randomly increasing white birthrates will somehow help white people regain their countries/culture. It completely ignores the fact that whites are the ones enslaving themselves.
When a group is plagued by weak men betraying everyone for money/status, the solution isn't to spawn more of them, it's to cull the weak, regardless of their race.

This is why having the government take women's rights away won't help.
Only the strong may have kids, the rest mustn't be allowed.

The solution to the low birthrates is men leaving the cities, creating self-sufficient communities and enforcing their own rules there. Preferably outside of the US.

It needs to be random men who take charge and start their own movements. Anything that comes from the government, even something like taking women's rights away, will only result in more tyranny, not less.

So those expecting the Chinese or Russian governments to force women to breed, are hoping for the wrong thing.

I'm all for whites creating communities for themselves, having high birthrates and enforcing their own rules there, but the normies cannot be allowed to enjoy such benefits.

It needs to be random men who take charge and start their own movements. Anything that comes from the government, even something like taking women's rights away, will only result in more tyranny, not less.

So those expecting the Chinese or Russian governments to force women to breed, are hoping for the wrong thing.

@Scubbie @shortstories @Zeb That's quite the convoluted story you got there.
It doesn't take any creativity to disprove a "holy book", it just takes logic and knowledge. The creativity is in those books.

And we're not "pagans" for not falling for them, we're just not emotionally bound to a book.

Jews always defied Christianity, ever since they drove the first Christians out of Israel and got them to convert the Roman goyim instead. They love the gospel for you, they just hate it for them.

@Justicar Noooo, you don't understand, even if these men enforced the tyranny and made fools of themselves, they will eventually save us all! We just need to take women's rights away. Don't you see how much they love freedom under their water bottle masks? But the women are keeping them down!!

@Der_verruckte_Doktor Of course they are. While they may own less tangible assets than their grandparents, men are still rewarded with status and comfort for compliance.

Want online clout? Promote the narrative. Want to get ahead in your career? Comply, get married and promote diversity and inclusion.

Resist any of it and be prepared to be inconvenienced, threatened and possibly fired or debanked.
Most modern men live for status and comfort, it's all they care about.

@shortstories @Zeb @Scubbie He'll say what every other "right wing" Jewish pundit says. Oh it had to do with the fact they were at war when they wrote that, here's the actual context, etc.etc. and it's not as if the bible doesn't have exaggerations either that Christians ignore. You're just focusing on whatever little details you can twist to your cause, because you hate Jews. Etc.

There is always an excuse or a convoluted story to muddy the waters. It just takes creativity.

@ToyotaTime So no, getting rid of the government isn't going to change anything, they'll just replace them with new puppets and the weak masses will remain weak.
The government taking away women's rights, isn't going to magically make men strong. The government will just enforce the tyranny without masking it as a female issue. And because birthrates will increase, they'll have even more soldiers and more collectivism. The higher the population density, the less freedom each individual has.

@ToyotaTime Then, since it is about comparing whites to other demographics, it would be false to say you "don't care about the amount of Arabs, Indians, etc." as you previously did. Comparing numbers is the only way to make it seem as if whites are "going extinct".

And that replacement is being caused by white people. Who enforces the law? Who fought 2 world wars for their slave masters? Who keeps paying taxes? Blaming the government is to ignore the real issue. Weak men are EVERYWHERE.

@ToyotaTime Even with these birthrates, whites are at no risk of going extinct in the foreseeable future.
The reason why it may seem otherwise, is precisely because we compare whites to other races. So what you're really noticing is demographic replacement.

Regardless, you're too focused on the symptom (low birthrates) and not enough on the disease (weak men). Whites are doing this to themselves, because of collective weakness and the only solution is a culling of the weak, not more of them.

@Der_verruckte_Doktor How is that a question when men have been doing just that even before they fought two world wars for their slave masters?

I mean, that question has been answered many many times. You give men status and comfort and they'll comply with anything, they'll even put on a little mask and get boosted. Weak men don't want freedom, weak men created this system and maintain it every day, they pay taxes, they police the streets and they fight the wars. There is no neat part.

@Mr_Mister Oh you won't need to wait 20 years. It won't be boomers dying off that change anything, but the controlled collapse of the current world order.
All these people living on top of each other because there isn't enough space for them, rely on artificial and unhealthy systems to produce insane amounts of food that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Once they collapse, you'll see widespread famine. The world isn't made for so many people and here we are worrying about population collapse lol.

@ToyotaTime The real question is, WHY do we want to raise the fertility rate? Aren't there enough people in this world already? Oh I know it's never enough for our debt-based monetary system and non-stop technological progress, but maybe, just maybe, those things should end. Maybe the solution isn't more people, more NPCs and more collectivism.

Russia and China won't do that, because AI/robotics will help replace people, plus those countries are part of the new world order agenda.

@Tfmonkey Population collapse is a joke. For one, the world population keeps increasing. And more importantly, the world is extremely overpopulated.
Even if you only count white people, there's only a demographic issue when compared to other races. No one's going extinct.

Let's be honest, it's not the race that requires so many people, it's these sick debt-based economies that need more and more worker ants to prop up the system.

Population collapse is the way to get out of the dystopia.

@YoMomz And they would succeed. There are other scapegoats they can use besides women and leftists, as we've seen with covid. It's very easy.

Most men simply lack the will to resist tyranny, they'd much rather enjoy the comfort/status/power that comes with compliance.

You could remove all women from society and very little would change, they're that inconsequential.

The government taking women's rights away would only result in higher birthrates and worsen the overpopulation related issues.

@Justicar The usual, which may be good or bad depending on the viewer.

@shortstories Indeed, it's not going to happen for a multitude of reasons.

@YoMomz And how exactly will it create the conditions necessary for weak men to leave the gene pool?
I'll even disregard the fact that voting is now a waste of time.

It's like saying if we get rid of the Left, we get rid of cancel culture. It's not leftists, it's not "culture", it's the government. Same with women. If you take women's rights away, the government will just enforce the tyranny without masking it as a female issue. Unless the men are willing to die for freedom, nothing changes.