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This is their logic using the example of Damascus:
P0: The Word of God is true.
P1: The Bible is the Word of God.
P2: The Bible says, "Damascus will cease to be a city and will become a heap of ruins." ESV
P3: Damascus has not yet ceased to been destroyed.
C1: Damascus will be destroyed before the end of the world.

Because they think the nation of Israel is the Biblical "Israel", if the nation is ever destroyed, then Premise 1 is false, and their religious identity collapses.

Also posting this here for this crowd:

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Christian denominations see the nation of Israel as being integral to Jesus returning because the Israelite temple has to be rebuilt in Jerusalem. They also believe that Damascus must be destroyed before Jesus comes back based on a prophesy that was originally not fulfilled in Isiah 17:1.

I'm posting this here because I think this crowd would gather some value from it as well.

War is amoral. Further, it is not moral to be a victim, and it is not immoral to be an aggressor.
What matters is who finishes it [a conflict] when the other side is either wiped out or beaten into submission. It could be argued that winning and losing are better candidates for moral valuation.

@Stahesh @37712 This is my opinion based on my tastes. Some people love HP Lovecraft, and would excoriate me for this:
The mythos and the potential worlds creatable and inspired by HP Lovecraft are far better than most of his actual stories, which are middling, (science?) fiction at best.
"The Call of Cthulhu" is a starting place, but I would argue that no one can say that The Old Ones are evil in any respectable sense of the word.

@Stahesh @37712 @Tfmonkey It's unfortunate that whoever made that is so unfamiliar with the mythos as to believe that CTHULHU is evil.

@Pain66 This is still an accurate image.

@ButtWorldsMan All I see is a blown up hospital in the middle of a war zone while both sides blame the other.

@UncleIroh @37712 @Tfmonkey

I did choose the social gospel movement because that is what anyone would do: Someone finds the weakest argument being made and asks for proof or provides counter arguments. Because these are historical claims, they should be easy to demonstrate as being either true or false.

I agree that there are many of these individuals who have control over the levers of power. I'll stop posting on this thread now because it's not helpful.

@37712 @Tfmonkey It's one thing to say that water is wet or that George Washington was a president of the US, but if you're going to make a claim like "social gospel = jews" I want to see some evidence.

@UncleIroh @37712 @Tfmonkey Perhaps I was being too literal, but when someone says "social gospel = jews", I expect something obvious like at least ONE of the most prominent figures in the movement being ethnically and religiously jewish.
I'm happy to agree if it can be proven, but no evidence has been presented to demonstrate the point being made.

@37712 @Tfmonkey And while I know it's a meme to ask for sources, I just want something, not infinite sources.

@37712 @Tfmonkey
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sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Gospel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_T._Ely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Strong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Gladden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Rauschenbusch

@37712 @Tfmonkey
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Just a quick perusal in Wikipedia, which I'm happy to accept is wrong if you can show otherwise:

Notable leaders and figures in the Social Gospel movement:
* Richard T. Ely - Episcopalian (Christian)
* Josiah Strong - Protestant clergyman (Christian)
* Washington Gladden - Congregational (Calvinist reformed) pastor (Christian)
* Walter Rauschenbusch - Theologian and Baptist pastor (Christian)

@37712 @Tfmonkey That's a bold claim! Can I see your sources? Was Mao also a Jew?

@ButtWorldsMan It does indeed solve problems. Whether or not it is the best solution to solve said problems is another question.

I've been hearing calls from pro-Israel reporters and correspondents for Egypt to allow all the civilians of Gaza to leave the strip to keep them safe.
Let's assume they do that and Israel kills all of Hammas. Who is going to live there? Are they going to let the Palestinians back in to rebuild their homes in poverty?
Many have lost loved ones and be quite bitter leading to more violence within a generation. Wouldn't it make more sense to settle Israelis in the strip? That would be convenient.

@dander Every time I see something like this, it warms my heart.

@Stahesh @37712 @Tfmonkey I agree, rapists within my community need to die too.
Personally, I wouldn't want to see women in a conquered community raped because it's not necessary. Divvy them out as wives and servants to the men of my community to ensure they're under someone's care. Everyone who lives wins in the game of life.
Just because one conquers a people doesn't mean one needs to be barbaric about it.