A Boomer Libtard at lunch today insisted that Islam was a religion of peace and Muslims do NOT want to kill Christians.
I guess it must just be my imagination.
He said fuck the Jews, though.
@shortstories Yeah, that's exactly how the conversation went. I said that if Christians became Muslim they're not Christian, so they're still killing Christians. And I admitted that very same thing you mentioned -- the Jews will never accept you, but at least the Muslims have a way in. That satisfied his little squirrel brain.
Historically, the jizya tax has been understood in Islam as a fee for protection provided by the Muslim ruler to non-Muslims, for the exemption from military service for non-Muslims, for the permission to practice a non-Muslim faith with some communal autonomy in a Muslim state, and as material proof of the non-Muslims' submission to the Muslim state and its laws.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
Muslims might let Christians practice Christianity to some degree with some restrictions
@shortstories We'll see how it all works when the antichrist gets set up. Probably just going to be 100% anti-Christian. The name is probably a clue, I guess. The world would love to kill Christians on principle, so I can see them getting on board with that. Anyway, I don't plan on kissing any boots on my neck -- Christian, Jew, Muslim, or Other.
You are guaranteed to be enslaved or executed if Jews take over because you can not change your ancestry
You can at least change your professed religion if Muslims take over
And you can choose among a list of religions including Christianity as Muslims define it ( there are certain religions they do not allow )
And still not be enslaved to the same degree that Jews would enslave you
Christianity is not an option at all with Judaism they plan to just execute Christians
@shortstories I'm not going to even pretend to be Muslim. I've made peace with my 3 most likely death scenarios, so if forced into a "high score" situation I'm going to be alright. I'm not going to try to create a theocracy on Earth without a Jesus on a throne (most Christians' biggest error politically, and how the cultural problem of "slave morality" comes about), but I'm also not going to deny Christ. I actually believe that's a hard line in the sand as a Christian.
"Ἀντί" means not only anti in the sense of "against" and "opposite of", but also "in place of"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist
What would a antichrist be?
Someone who replaces Jesus Christ and is not Jesus Christ and who proclaims to be the Unique type of Messiah that Jesus is. There were lesser Messiahs in the old testament
Criteria to be the Jewish Messiah
Someone who is not Jesus
Rabbis will call that person the Messiah
So in conclusion
AJewish Messiah is a Christian AntiChrist
If Muhammad just did not say he was a Prophet getting revelation from God
Then Islam would be partly compatible with Christianity
Muhammad actually corrected heresies present at his time and place
God is not a biological father
God did not have a biological son
Mary is not the biological mother of God
Mary is the mother of Jesus who was a human created by God to represent himself in flesh form
Jesus human nature is not divine and has no father
Jesus divine nature has no mother
@shortstories @RoninGrey What about Pagans what Jews or Muslim plan on Pagans The same as Christians?
Jews will enslave polytheists if they agree to become monotheistic Noahides but treat them as second class citizens and not let them convert to Judaism in most cases
Jews will likely simply execute Christians & not offer them an opportunity to become Noahides nor convert to Judaism
Because they hate Christians more than all other religions
Muslims have a list of religions they tolerate but will execute people not on the list unless they convert to a listed religion
A noahide is a gentile who agrees to be a slave to the Jews and not worship Jesus like Christians do but worships the Jewish god instead which Jews call monotheism even though Jews have a history of worshipping other gods than the old testament god and reject the old testament negating it with other writings
Noahides do not have to keep as many laws as Jews but are considered to be non human animals without a human soul in the shape of a human body to serve Jews
Muslims will allow polytheists to convert to any sort of people of the book religions or to Islam to avoid execution
This article lists people of the book religions Muslims somewhat tolerate
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Book
But Muslims do not understand what the people of the book religions actually taught & think they taught something else
So they would most likely execute them if they did not practice it in the way Muslims incorrectly think the religions originally were
In the old testament idolatry was forbidden but the death penalty for idolatry was eventually somewhat negated when God told the descendants of Israel to let the foreign countries invade & obey them as punishment for their wickedness & things would go will for them instead of telling them to execute the foreign rulers & invaders for worshipping other gods
Later in the new testament idolatry was forbidden but it was not said to go about executing idol worshipers
Of course many of the Israelites in the old testament did not surrender and continued to worship other gods
Such worship sometimes involved human sacrifice
So things did not go will for them and God allowed all those who did not surrender and continued to practice idolatry to be severely punished by the invaders
The prohibition on idolatry usually mentions specific practices like human sacrifice
The idolatry death penalty discouraged human sacrifice, saving lives
Although some Governments that labeled themselves as Christian executed people for various religious practices or beliefs
I suspect in modern times the religion that would be least likely to execute polytheists out of Judaism, Christianity & Islam is Christianity
Unless the polytheists are doing human sacrifices or something like that but then they would say they are executing them as a punishment for murder instead of executing them as a punishment for religion
The Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) is a great place to compare & contrast.
Arab Muslims were tolerated and treated OK by Christians in Byzantium with territorial spats and economic war being a constant background.
When it switched over to the Ottoman Empire, Christians were tolerated under jizya but with periodic massacres of Christians.
Jews?! Fuck them all. They're the true psychopaths.
I want Jews to have a homeland, for the simple reason that they can all be expelled to an actual place.
As a famous Austrian painter once noted:
"While the Zionists try to make the rest of the World believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim.
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"It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organisation for their international world swindler, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks."
--Mein Kampf
I am not saying that people should exterminate all the Jews
But if people did exterminate all the Jews then people would not need to get the Jews a homeland to keep them out of their land
Personally I do not support exterminating people who do not practice the Jewish religion because of their Jewish ancestry
But I am just talking about logical consistency
Personally at this point I'm up for giving them a homeland, building a massive wall around it and keeping them inside under threat of violence.
Sure, it can be a spacious gilded prison with all the luxuries they could want, where they can spend their days out-jewing each other and sucking baby dicks.
But like any dangerous psychopath, they don't get to join polite society and predate on them lik they've been doing all this time.
Take away their food, that's us.
@RoninGrey It's about time the Christians leave this earth and go meet Jesus. All they do here is give their money and blood to israel and prevent us from fixing the real issues.
@Zeb This is exactly what I was referencing. The vast majority of "Christians" have caused huge problems in their stupidity and so when someone says "Eradicate them all!" everyone's going to jump on board. And I don't even blame them. But if you lump me in with these CINOs and come after me personally, you're gonna find out.
Like @Islamisright said (to paraphrase and recontextualize), we can let the afterlife sort us out. For now, I'm trying to be part of the solution.
@RoninGrey
Muslims do not want to kill Christians who convert to Islam
Jews would still discriminate against Christian Gentiles because of their ancestry even if they abandon Christianity
People with a Jewish mother are automatically considered Jews and get Jew privileges no matter what religion they have as long as they are not Christians
Jews make it difficult or sometimes impossible for anyone without a Jewish father to convert to Judaism