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@basedbagel @FinalDresdonation

Appreciate that. Also mostly agree, even if there are a sea of glowie fags out there.

@Loosekunt

Now we have that sorted out here's another:

We know that "loose lips sink ships"

What do loose kunts do? 🤣

@shortstories @white_male

On a long enough timeline "bad research methodology" is a self-correcting problem.

They found that out in the USSR and Mao's China when reality failed to comply with their "science" and it ended with them stacking bodies of their own citizens tens of millions high.

@Loosekunt

And as we're all learning now, this is exactly how it always worked in the Before Times. We were always being lied to.

@shortstories @white_male

Why would I need to do that? Literally nobody takes the social sciences seriously. It's basically astrology.

In fact, astrology might have better replication results.

The solutions I was talking about earlier were mean to be taken generically, not about a single specific study.

@Zeb @FinalDresdonation

It's inevitable that at some point men will once again regain the desire to drink from the skulls of their enemies.

@shortstories

What we should be doing is archiving them for later evidence, not ignoring them.

The technology already exists to ensure integrity of raw data - immutable distributed databases that hash the results, i.e. blockchains, are just the most obvious solution available.

There is absolutely zero will to do this however, because as I already said, raw data is a strategic commodity that can be used to manufacture any information you want depending on how it's analyzed and interpreted.

@shortstories

That was interesting, but in the end, while I get your frustrations, it will go nowhere for all the reasons the poast dudes mentioned.

Data is a commodity and the information derived from it is a weapon. You can hide it, use it as a baseball bat on populations, or both.

The only way to get their raw data and methodology is to steal it or replicate it yourself.

@Zeb @FinalDresdonation

This is why many people, myself included, often frame this time we live in as a spiritual war.

It demands that every man face these issues head-on. No-one gets to run away.

@Wopu

Loving Putin's new "I'm an Aussie cunt" persona.

Who blew up Nordstream ? Putin's answer from the Tuckek Carlson interview.

@redmaple

"We're too dumb to deserve the internet".

Well that's exactly what the WEF think of us, and so they reason that they're justified in putting the boot on our necks "for our own good."

They might have a point, there's a lot of morons out there, but they're also doing their best to create as much chaos so that we'll all throw up our hands in disgust and defeat and say "Fuggit, you win".

I think their fuckery will backfire, even with all the morons.

@Zeb @FinalDresdonation

> All the "issues" one associates with the internet are all government/culture created

Which is to say it's endemic such that these issues and all the intractable nth order effects will increase as global access increases.

Public goods too. There's no easy answer.

@basedbagel @FinalDresdonation

To get philosophical for a moment, at some level of existential danger it ultimately comes down to a utilitarian vs moral absolutism argument.

That's why I find Dune fascinating. Herbert posed this dilemna and resolved it with the Butlerian Jihad, a mixture of both utilitarianism and moral absolutism.

@basedbagel @FinalDresdonation

This is a really tough one for me. It's personally been beneficial and devastating in turn.

At the extremes the argument that tools are morally neutral runs out - the Oppenheimer dilemna, weaponized ebola, or giving everyone to ability to make their own nuclear bombs are examples.

With the internet it's the 2nd, 3rd, nth order effects that are still playing themselves out.

I'd err on the side of "goods > harms but barely". We are kids running with scissors.

@UncleIroh I think it'd be better destroyed and my life would be better. As much as I like the online clicks I have I have also found enough social success to fit in with people. Really, the socialization destruction of people's attention spans has sucked. I went from being able to talk with people chilling to now everyone is on their phone with low quality repeat interactions. Shit's weird, and women while they'd still have a ton of issues wouldn't be so broadly accessible.

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